Why people still USE ACT knowing their breaking TOS ??

[PharisHanasaki]

Same here.
If I frequently see hardcasted heals, lots of hots all over the place and shields before every aoe, I will tune down my own healing and likely only heal as long as it's not a dps loss or to fill gaps when I know my co healer just blew all his resources and is now out of options. If they can't even wait for their own regens to heal people and have to burst with yet another aoe heal that's on them. I will not waste resources on something that's actually detrimental for the group.
There is no point in topping people asap because if they fail a mechanic they're toast anyway regardless of their hp. The only interesting part is when the next unavoidable will hit. As long as they're above the requires threshold they will be fine. Wether an aoe brings them to 50k or 10k really doesn't matter. Alive is alive. You don't get brownie points for people looking healthy or high speed topping.

Tbh, I don't like the fact that some healers would wait for a long time to heal while dps. I understand about regens, and it's fine to wait and be healed by one, but as a dps I've died many times while doing mechanics correctly because healers prioritize dps over heals. It's frustrating, but as a dps there is nothing I can do but wait and die at the next mechanic because not even a pot or second wind could save me.

I mostly pug, and I'd rather have my cohealer dps while only healing on heavy aoe mechs. But I don't like them not healing at all from the start. If you want to do 100% dps and 0% heal, you're on the wrong job. And I'm not exagerating, I've had healers like that on multiple "learning/practice" parties where you actually need to heal through mistakes.

If I had a static and I knew my cohealer I would't overheal as much, if at all. I know that because I have a cohealer friend and when I'm with her I rarely have to worry. I know her playstyle, and she knows mine. But while I pug, I'd rather keep people alive and clear.

[Wyakin]

What I like is you two are having a back and forth about the merits of under healing and over healing and basically out of spite you stop doing your role. It’s because of this attitude that ACT will always be banned.


ACT is about personal improvement while comparing YOURSELF to others. Not judging other people on their poor performance. If you feel so compelled, help others improve also. Stop being these nasty passive aggressive people

[GrimGale]

Overhealing equates to wasted time and resources. Overhealing, unlike DPS, doesn't make a fight shorter, doesn't save anybody and doesn't have a purpose.

While it's sometimes unavoidable, it should be minimized.

[MichiPichi]

What I like is you two are having a back and forth about the merits of under healing and over healing and basically out of spite you stop doing your role. It’s because of this attitude that ACT will always be banned.


ACT is about personal improvement while comparing YOURSELF to others. Not judging other people on their poor performance. If you feel so compelled, help others improve also. Stop being these nasty passive aggressive people

You don't need ACT to see a co-healer is over healing. Keeping medica 2 up and putting regen on every single person (I've seen this horror several times) and constantly healing while the tank is missing like 5% health...that's overhealing. The only difference is I don't have the exact percentage, however just physically seeing that, I will cut down on the healing and dps more. That's not being passive aggressive, that's me thinking and going "Oh I don't need to heal right now the other person is doing it....alot".

I also don't give suggestions in this game any more because people don't listen and or get offended no matter how nicely you put it. Just look at ACT/FFLogs and react accordingly.

[Liam_Harper]

Tbh, I don't like the fact that some healers would wait for a long time to heal while dps. I understand about regens, and it's fine to wait and be healed by one, but as a dps I've died many times while doing mechanics correctly because healers prioritize dps over heals. It's frustrating, but as a dps there is nothing I can do but wait and die at the next mechanic because not even a pot or second wind could save me.

If you died to regular mechanics the healer was just bad. We don't prioritize dps over essential healing. Healer dps is all about heal efficiency, not healing as little as possible. We don't want to avoid healing, we want to avoid wasted healing.

A good healer will often wait a long time to heal because the healing isn't needed yet and they have it all mapped out. A good example is e6s which has huge gaps between some of its raidwide damage and is actually one of the easiest fights to heal. It's not uncommon to leave half the team sitting below 50% for upwards of 20+ seconds, but they're in no danger at all because Assize is coming off cd 5 sec before the next damage, or a lily will be up or asylum is ticking, or an intermission is coming where a medica II can be popped.
However, most co-heals panic miles before this and top the party off, wasting the good healers oGcds and probably then going to the forums to rant about their cohealer "refusing to heal" and maybe making up a few stories about dead dps to pad their story.

If you feel so compelled, help others improve also. Stop being these nasty passive aggressive people

We'd like to help, but it's bannable. If you offer help and advice based on accurate figures, you can be reported for using third party tools. Nor are you allowed to press that advice on anyone if they don't want help. However, it's absolutely fine to simply kick someone for "difference in playstyle". So that's purely an Enix created issue. We're encouraged to keep quiet and boot them if we don't like it.

[Lilyth]

However, most co-heals panic miles before this and top the party off, wasting the good healers oGcds and probably then going to the forums to rant about their cohealer "refusing to heal" and maybe making up a few stories about dead dps to pad their story.

This so much. I lost count on how many of my recitation+excogs have gone to waste because my co-healer kept healing the tank between each auto-attack and wouldn't let any of my timed heals do their job. Sniff.

[Hysterior]

While technically against ToS, parsers are tolerated.
What is not tolerated is harassment based on parsers.

So you are free to use it for yourself to improve your performance and with your team to improve your raid experience. But you cannot use parser to attack people.

And yes, as mentioned before, this is an old topic and SE currently doesn't want to add a parser. Closest thing to a parse is the Stone Sky Sea.

With the introduction of Dancer (where your DPS is reliant on your dancing partner being the highest DPS in the party), I though they would do something more but they did not.

[WaxSw]

Seeing streamers using these on their stream and also non raiders (group parties/dungeons) maybe ffxiv need to add their own version of parsing to remove need of addons/plugins ???

FFXIV need its own parse as long as it has dps checks. What they shoudn't do by any means is block ACT, if they do that there won't be any point on raiding or trying to improve, parsers are something necessary to know how good or bad you do. The tools that allow you to analyze yourself and improve should never be banned, in fact, should be included in the game itself no matter how much "toxicity" the devs think it creates because there will be always toxicity on one way or another, be it by "toxic elitism" or people that we "don't pay their sub" and take the sligthest advice as a personal offence.

[AbelArchaniEA]

Once again, an entire thread as solid proof as to why we don't need parses.

[puts up REEEE shield]

Disagree completely. If you are sensitive to people who expect equal contributions then you should either look for a single player game or build your own pf with like minded underperforming players

[Flay_wind]

or build your own pf with like minded underperforming players

And wipe to an enrage at 30% as a result.

Personally i use ACT to see how i perform and how it could be improved. Nothing more, nothing less.
As a side effect it made aware of all these underperforming players, like 5k samurais in ShB, but eh.