Quote Originally Posted by ArianeEwah View Post
No, Heirro is right. WAR is fine compared to its tank brethren.

Just looking at the "played" numbers doesn't help. In fact, we could construe the number of GNB parses as GNB being the 2nd worst/least enjoyable tank. Yet, the most recent poll from reddit and also recent forum thread GNB is one of the most liked job of all FF14 ShB jobs right now.
GNB also having the highest representation of all tanks for speed kills says it's favored.

As Heirro said:


Also, WAR losing the most unique design mechanics, aestetics, and -last, but not least- dps from SB to ShB has hurt those "WAR mains". (I am using quotation mark on purpose bc it's mostly people jump off of WAR who enjoyed being the highest dps tank.)

I would've also rather enjoyed enhanced tank dynamics on every other tank instead of getting cuts on WAR identity, but here we are.
Says Hierro is right and that warrior is fine, then goes off about GNB. What are you arguing? This doesn't explain how WAR is fine.

Warrior is the least favored. Warrior is not popular on social media.

Warrior lost all its utility, its unique features, its party synergy, and its damage (and deliverance, a strong part of its identity). It didn't get anything new and lost almost everything.

Warrior wastes 3 gcds just to do an aoe rotation. You waste 6 gcds to do 1 beast skill in aoe, then 4gcds (6, 4, 6). It only refreshes 10s, but you lose nearly 3s just applying it, making 4 to 6gcds just to have a comfortable time to execute IR. This is atrocious in dungeons. If its 2 targets, war uses fell cleave. Wow, even in aoe, they can't escape FC. So war has to wait 4/6 gcds to do 1 Beast ability, but has no variance unless its 3 enemies? When it used to be decimate?

Holmgang duration is based on the target. If you apply it and the enemy dies 1s later, that holmgang doesn't get the rest 7s duration.

WAR doesn't bring enough damage, utility, nor aesthetic to justify it being "fine". And if you want to talk about war mains, hi. We said its not fine.

And warrior needs to be top dps. It even still has the punishment as if it is (if you wanna balance). A lot of wars stopped being war because removing its damage is wrong, especially with what yoshida exclusively stated. They also don't play it in protest.

Also, I already had this type of thread made in AUGUST 2019, why are you splitting? We should all be in the same thread. Sigh