WAR needs love

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

I want you to change into warrior and try to execute this: any GCD > Infuriate > nascent flash > inner chaos
You will not do it without clipping.

I do that and trained to do that ever back since Sigmascape with Cover. It is possible without clipping, but without macros it requires a fair bit of practice. Me having background from FPS games so having naturally trained accuracy with a pointer helped a lot though.

Humbly speaking, I don't wish anyone having to go through this just to utliize WAR's best HP recovery tool.

[ReiMakoto]

I want you to change into warrior and try to execute this: any GCD > Infuriate > nascent flash > inner chaos
You will not do it without clipping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nplw...ature=youtu.be

okay, heres my attempt with basically no practice and way too high skillspeed. Pretty sure theres basically no clipping there, whats your point exactly?

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nplw...ature=youtu.be

okay, heres my attempt with basically no practice and way too high skillspeed. Pretty sure theres basically no clipping there, whats your point exactly?

Now do it mid rotation in an actual savage fight lul. /sarcasm
To say it is without practice would be underpresenting your initial experience with the game and controls, but the average player wanting to improve will likely stumble at exactly that hurdle, particularly in the way you did it on controller.

Because of such complications players opt to macro it, which comes with the basic clunk that macros provide by not letting you queue an action. None of this is taking into account if they wanted to use it for lifesteal or targetted mitigation, yet they have to jump through the same hurdle regardless of player intention.

[Nedkel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nplw...ature=youtu.be

okay, heres my attempt with basically no practice and way too high skillspeed. Pretty sure theres basically no clipping there, whats your point exactly?

You almost clipped here, its still pretty good reflex however if you put anymore sks you are going to clip it all the time, especially during middle of the heat in raids.
In Stormblood not clipping AD and other oGCD skill on DRK wasnt hard on a dummy either, but when it came to fight in raid, the clipping becomes way more annoying since you have to move and pay attention to other things.
Its also annoying to use for several other reasons, like for example when someone you want to heal is somehow out of range or when second tank or healer is bitting the ground.

In my opinion nascent flash should grant us 4 stacks for each skill use that could heal us, instead of 6 seconds and just leave those 6 seconds on 10% reduction for the second target, that would be way better. There is no reason it cant be better designed, am i right?

If it's gonna clipped from doubleweave, you can just GCD> Infuriate> GCD> Nascent flash> Inner chaos.

Yes, but what if you also have to turn on deffensive CD in the middle of that? This skill could have been done nicer.

And ty nedkel for solving for me what ic meant, I wasn't aware it meant inner chaos till I read your post, whether u knew it or not, u typing out the words inner chaos helped me to understand the tips hierro gave me more clearly.

lol you are welcome

[ReiMakoto]

You clipped here minimally like 0.1 second or less, its not as bad, but anymore sks and you are going to clip it all the time, especially during middle of the heat in raids.
In Stormblood not clipping AD and other oGCD skill on DRK wasnt hard on a dummy either, but when it came to fight in raid, the clipping becomes way more annoying since you have to move and pay attention to other things.
Its also annoying to use for several other reasons, like for example when someone you want to heal is somehow out of range.

In my opinion nascent flash should grant us 4 stacks for each skill use that could heal us, instead of 6 seconds, that would be way better.

I'm gonna be real, that little clipping is a non issue and anyone worrying about it is overeacting, you can get like 95th percentile in this game with genuinely aweful clipping like triple weaves. Also if anything im likely to put that clipping on my connection more than on the game, sometimes and especially in housing areas I can't double weave on my gnb without some noticable clip, (and that war clip was hardly noticiable)
I mained drk in SB, abyssal was a gcd then not an ogcd, and you could very comfortably double weave on drk even with the improved attack speed of blood weapon because there was so little animation lock on dark arts that DA+CnS could be weaved with no clipping even under blood weapon, provided your connection wasnt poor and you werent running meme speed (I miss you meme speed, i really do, sub 2s gcd on a tank was great).

I'm sure the skill could be much better, but as it stands i would still deem it hardly an issue, Warrior doesnt have an abundance of double weaves anyway so as another user said, you could just use infuriate then nascent a gcd later, (or deal with the 0.1s clip).

[LunaChild]

I want you to change into warrior and try to execute this: any GCD > Infuriate > nascent flash > inner chaos
You will not do it without clipping.

If it's gonna clipped from doubleweave, you can just GCD> Infuriate> GCD> Nascent flash> Inner chaos.

[VictorTheed]

NF confuses me, do I use it on a party member to heal them even if I'm at full health or do I use it when me and them need health?

Plus does how much dmg I do while it's on give more health to me or party member?

[Hierro]

NF confuses me, do I use it on a party member to heal them even if I'm at full health or do I use it when me and them need health?

Plus does how much dmg I do while it's on give more health to me or party member?

Just use it whenever. The only rule you should follow, which isn't that hard to follow, is to always NF with Upheaval. This means you're not exactly using NF on cooldown, but close to it since NF is on a 25 sec CD and Upheaval's at a 30 second CD.

You can also use NF paired with infuriate and IC for healing after tank busters, but chances are your healers were going to intervene there anyways.

[VictorTheed]

Just use it whenever. The only rule you should follow, which isn't that hard to follow, is to always NF with Upheaval. This means you're not exactly using NF on cooldown, but close to it since NF is on a 25 sec CD and Upheaval's at a 30 second CD.

You can also use NF paired with infuriate and IC for healing after tank busters, but chances are your healers were going to intervene there anyways.

Ty for the tips hierro, that'll help me out.

[VictorTheed]

I want you to change into warrior and try to execute this: any GCD > Infuriate > nascent flash > inner chaos
You will not do it without clipping.

And ty nedkel for solving for me what ic meant, I wasn't aware it meant inner chaos till I read your post, whether u knew it or not, u typing out the words inner chaos helped me to understand the tips hierro gave me more clearly.