Punish MSQ Cutscene Skippers

[Neoom]

You know honestly I think that's a pretty good argument to make them solo instances if anything... because those fights are so stupid faceroll easy that I'd be questioning what kinda content to expect going forward.

At any rate, a handful of people skipping cutscenes isn't even close to as bad as how it used to be, and I mean personally I haven't even seen someone skip in weeks. It's already reportable even though I sure wouldn't bother to, so I don't think any changes are needed... unless they do in fact turn them into solo/trust dungeons. Frankly I'd be sad to see the exp go, but glad to see a better new player experience and an end to this endless debate.

I'm not against the idea of solo instance at all, I think it would be amazing fix to it; being so the player can themselves to skip the cut scenes or not since it only affects them and their speed. But until they do change it, people who hate the cut scenes just have to suffer through them or not join at all. No reason to ruin the game for your own entitled ass, and before you call me SJW again, yes it does ruin it for a new player Call me what you want, but if you skip and make the cut scenes play right after each other or even make the new player miss one is ruining it. Also as many users here have stated, they got left behind, didn't get to fight the oh so easy and fast fight, it felt bad. You can't take away the fact that people feel bad from being left behind and lost.

[Crushnight]

because noone like a leecher

Then why are you creating them someone who watches only cutscenes because you skip them and they are forced from 1 to another are putting no effort (not by their choice mind you) towards the instance and getting max rewards with 0 participation.

[Tsaranoga]

Being a leech is far different from skipping cut scenes to take part in fights quicker.

Heh, indeed. So why do you want to hurry it along so much that i don't have any time to participate in the fights? Especially when, as you say you inspire other assholes to join, you really should have nothing to complain about. What's fun in entering the boss room, barely starting your rotation, it's dead. Come on, i'm sure you have a better excuse.

[Awha]

Heh, indeed. So why do you want to hurry it along so much that i don't have any time to participate in the fights? Especially when, as you say you inspire other assholes to join, you really should have nothing to complain about. What's fun in entering the boss room, barely starting your rotation, it's dead. Come on, i'm sure you have a better excuse.

I do not recall complaining just saying that there is a difference between sitting around afk, or just standing around out of spite for those that skip verse watching cut scenes. I have no beef either way if someone wants to netflix and tab out, but I can see where people might draw the line.

Cannot speak for others but I wish to speed content along since I just want my daily reward and that is all. I like to play my video games not watch them. Thankfully I rarely run into people that get all upset about skipping and often run into people that did not even know they could do it. Either way I do not heal or tank content to help others I just enjoy the role and will perform it to best of my ability, I do not really care about much of anything else. If it turns out a run is too slow or do not feel like waiting around I will leave no skin off my back. It is not the end of the world.

They should just make a solo instance and be done with it.

[Iscah]

The point was to find out if the Devs brought back the option to skip the cutscenes would the playerS who defend not skipping the cutscenes jump ship and start skipping again? They defend it so well but will not watch the cutscenes once the option to skip them comes back.

I'd go back to skipping the scenes rather than being locked in them and clicking through the dialogue, yes... but I'd also go back to:

• waiting (and/or asking the rest of the party to wait) if there was someone still in the cutscene - sometimes they did, sometimes they didn't

• shepherding the poor lost newbie through the dungeon if everyone else left them behind

• spending the cutscene time sorting my inventory

• getting a fast run if everyone else skipped too

It was - should have been - a roulette of your time. Will you get a fast group of veterans, or do you need to wait?

If "not even 50%" of runs are a full party of veterans then even if you wait whenever someone is watching the scenes, then you'd only have to wait on less than 50% of runs too.

can we stop pretending theres newbies left and right in these roulettes? i guarantee you not even 50% of them have new player bonus

also if the only issue of skipping is new players, why get mad when people skip it when theres no new players anyway

If it only happened on veteran runs, maybe. But the attitude from the pro-skipping people tends to be "stuff the newbies, they got their cutscenes, why should they need the fights as well?" - so clearly they're not only doing it when nobody should mind.

As to why people would complain when there's no newbies... maybe they're frustrated at the general attitude of people who skip. Maybe they don't like involuntarily becoming "leeches" who aren't helping with the fights. Maybe they find it disconcerting that the fight is over when it's supposed to be beginning. Maybe they just wanted to punch Gaius in the face again.

[JisKing98]

If they turn these 2 dungeon into solo instance then pretty much that msq roulette doesnt have any reason to exist anymore

i literally said we just turn them into the regular dungeons after you complete the solo instance version. once you beat it the first time, you cant complete it again as a solo. Thus we still keep the msq roulette as well as they appearing in the mentor roulette.
Again its a win-win situation. newbies get to see the story and fights, vets get to keep the rewards from the roulette as long as SE keeps the beefed up rewards of course.

[AduroT]

i literally said we just turn them into the regular dungeons after you complete the solo instance version. once you beat it the first time, you cant complete it again as a solo. Thus we still keep the msq roulette as well as they appearing in the mentor roulette.
Again its a win-win situation. newbies get to see the story and fights, vets get to keep the rewards from the roulette as long as SE keeps the beefed up rewards of course.

The entire point of roulettes and their bonus is to get people to queue up for stuff so the first time players don’t have to find a specific group to run it. If there’s no new players needing a group to run it, there’s no need for a roulette.

[minimoo82]

One thing I would like to point out (and I apologize if it already has been, because I didn't read through the pages and pages of replies) is that those viewing the Japanese dub will get through certain cutscenes faster. Especially before the Gaius fights in Praetorium. So please don't jump the gun and think everyone is a skipper just because they're sitting there waiting for everyone else to catch up.

That said... It's usually pretty obvious who is intentionally exploiting in order to skip the scenes, and I agree they should be reported. If you don't have to 40-50 minutes to devote to the roulette, don't run it. Simple as that. You don't have to ruin the experience for others - especially the influx of new players we've been getting who are experiencing these events for the first time.

[JisKing98]

there’s no need for a roulette.

or we keep it how it is minus the unskippable cutscenes and use the bonus exp rewards and such as the incentive to do the roulette AFTER you complete it for the first time.

[TheMightyMollusk]

The enormous bonuses only exist because of the unskippable cutscenes. If you get skipping back, you lose the bonuses.