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  1. #51
    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    I don't really understand how it saves time either.

    So you skip the cutscene, and instead spend that time fighting the boss alone or with a few other people. So when the cutscene ends the boss is almost dead, instead of the usual 12 seconds it would've taken the whole raid to kill him together. So, you risked your account to save maybe 10 seconds?

    It's dumb, and it screws new players out of experiencing the fight, however insignificant those fights are nowadays.

    I don't think people do it to save time; they do it because they think it's edgy and impressive to break the encounter.
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  2. #52
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    Skipping can get you banned. It's clearly an exploit. And the rewards for msq roulette were inflated to match the time it now takes to complete. If you don't want to deal with the cutscenes, just don't queue into it. You don't have to compulsively do every roulette every day. If you don't have the time or just don't feel like waiting through them, do something else. I've never actually seen people doing this, so I'm not sure how widespread this actually is, but I wouldn't blame anyone for reporting this when it happens.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    I don't really understand how it saves time either.

    So you skip the cutscene, and instead spend that time fighting the boss alone or with a few other people. So when the cutscene ends the boss is almost dead, instead of the usual 12 seconds it would've taken the whole raid to kill him together. So, you risked your account to save maybe 10 seconds?

    It's dumb, and it screws new players out of experiencing the fight, however insignificant those fights are nowadays.

    I don't think people do it to save time; they do it because they think it's edgy and impressive to break the encounter.
    Nah, they can save a few minutes doing it with a few people on board. They can skip a scene, beat the boss, and have the next scene started before you’ve finished the first. They’ll of course skip that scene as well. You’ll watch the first scene, and it’ll start right into the next scene when it ends. Meanwhile they’ll be a fight or two ahead. The three I encountered doing it beat Lahabrah before his cutscene ended, so they saved themselves a whole couple minutes there.
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    It is a solution. I am talking about the people who want to emote spam and dont know how to turn it off (and would) and are disrupting others.
    Ok, now I'm misunderstanding you.
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  5. #55
    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AduroT View Post
    Nah, they can save a few minutes doing it with a few people on board. They can skip a scene, beat the boss, and have the next scene started before you’ve finished the first. They’ll of course skip that scene as well. You’ll watch the first scene, and it’ll start right into the next scene when it ends. Meanwhile they’ll be a fight or two ahead. The three I encountered doing it beat Lahabrah before his cutscene ended, so they saved themselves a whole couple minutes there.
    If you queued up with friends, are good at the game and have a plan, sure, but that's honestly not how I've ever seen it pan out. I don't see people skip very often, but the few times I did they were still fighting the boss when the cutscene ended; the boss fights take exponentially longer without the majority of the raid being involved.

    Most of the time it seems pointless, and I feel like if it's reported it would be pretty easy to confirm. All the GMs would have to do is look at the combat logs.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
    watching a cutscene is not "effort". if anything skipping them is more effort. newbies get to watch the cutscenes too. gotta love to report people for stuff that affects literally nobody
    going to go out on a limb and say the reporting is aimed at those that skipped and pull. I ran into like a hand full of players that did that. still, it's an exploit and it's reportable and it's annoying.
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    I've had friends who have had computer and connection issues many times during the MSQ and none of them have ever been dropped back in right on top of the boss and forced to fight. If you do DC and come back in then why not wait for the rest of your team? It's not costing you any extra time than what you agreed to by choosing the MSQ and makes the fights go faster anyway. But it is easy to tell that it was deliberate for two reasons, the first being they engage the boss and the second is that it doesn't happen just for one battle and only happens during the boss battles and never during the trash mobs you have to take care of on the way.

    They give you increased rewards to offset the time commitment that you agreed to by choosing to run the MSQ roulette. If you don't agree with that and there is nothing wrong with that but we all play this game together and I would ask you to not queue up for the MSQ then and ruin it for others. No need to exploit the game. Please, go get your rewards elsewhere.
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    Fraemoht Grehaerzsyn
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    Maybe SE should make it so that if you disconnect (intentionally or not) and log back in, you'll load just outside the boss arena with the barrier up (it won't come down until everyone finish watching CS).
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    It saves the group time depending on how many people skip. We cannot deny this fact, now we can go back and forth if it is right or wrong. Though the time factor is indeed fact depending on the amount and roles that skip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    How is that trouble though? If you have an accidental DC and log back to everyone still chilling in the cutscene just sit there and wait out the cutscene and relax. If you have a situation like what you did, just mention in chat the situation, apologize and let them know the boss isn't going to die anytime soon. If someone reports you, you have that chat log to show that hey you brought up the situation to the group, made it known you aren't going to be killing the boss and just sat there bopping her till the cutscene ended then went on with the fight, or really however you want to bring up and clarify the matter with the group. It is why SE investigates. They don't just take reports sent to them at face value and bring down their mighty hammer of ban.
    Could be trouble if enough people decided to report. Probably wouldn't actually result in an action, but my point is simply that it isn't always someone trying to skip on purpose.
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

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