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    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    I think there’s more, but I don’t pay attention to who’s what color I just see them as characters. If you need to count how many of what color or race there are then there’s something wrong with you.
    I think it's one of those things that only sticks out to you if you're constantly seeing people who don't look like you in the media. I'm not in that situation, so that's just my understanding from what others have said.

    And yeah, if you're not in that position and therefore don't think of it then it's hard to firstly remember to aim for that character variety, but also to know how far to go with it. I'm not familiar with [X], so should I write a character who is [X] and would it be taken as representing them badly? Is that better or worse than not at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I'm not familiar with [X], so should I write a character who is [X] and would it be taken as representing them badly? Is that better or worse than not at all?
    Write the character first, then decide everything else. If you focus soley on how [X] would act then your setting yourself up for "misrepresentation" and all the nasty labels that come with. Plus by focusing on how [X] is supposed to act you're stereotyping which is also bad because you're saying that all of [X] act a certain way. Personality should come before appearance.
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    Last edited by Joven; 05-25-2020 at 03:33 PM.

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    This is like the mirror of that Lyse thread in the lore section heh.

    I liked Antonio's blurb about bone structure, cause that's a reality.

    That said, even if they gave us more facial structure options, there's no way we could get it close enough, and they also aren't going to stray from making the main cast of any FF game beautiful by Japanese standards / What Corporate says will make the most money via marketing. This is why the Derplander is a pretty, albeit basic, bitch.

    Also something to note about Ala Mhigans is that it's a nationality, not a race. Highlanders + Midlander Hyurs, Miqote Seekers of the Sun, and Hellsguard Roegadyn are all common in Ala Mhigo. Highlanders more than most. The RDM mentor is Ala Mhigan for goodness sakes, and he's paler than Lyse or Minfilia.
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    POC makes no sense because it's a fictional world with fictional races, irl races don't apply.

    But I do indeed notice how pale skin is so predominant, especially among scions, as my main character is dark-skinned so it stands out.
    As others have said, blame the obsession for pale skin Japanese and neighouring countries have.

    One thing that never added up though, Luoisoux was very dark skinned. His nephiews are very light skinned. Something doesn't add up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    One thing that never added up though, Luoisoux was very dark skinned. His nephiews are very light skinned. Something doesn't add up.
    I just figured he was weathered. It is possible to have a dark skinned grandsire and light skinned grandchildren though, dependent on who their parents were, lineage and dominant genes.
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    Gotta respect when a thread gets the community going on about eugenics.
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    As a brown southeast asian, to me those main characters facial structure looks asian. Western name? It's a fantasy world so it doesn't matter. They can name their yellow asian character Muthu (indian name) if they wanted to.
    In fact, a lot of asian has weird english sounds name. I have a chinese buddy named Jerry (legally, not just nickname). Some other weird asian names = Fish Leong, Candy etc etc.

    So yeah, those main characters are asian, not caucasian. Their nose and chin aren't big enough to be considered as a caucasian. The game main character's are all ASIAN (POC). By saying that the game lack POC just shows how inconsiderate and lack of knowledge you are toward other races (Asian), and I am really offended by your post. Asian are POC too, you know

    What FFXIV lacks are in fact caucasian main characters. Roegadyn has caucasian facial features, but none of them are the main characters (scions)
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    The game is pretty diverse though I will say I was a little disappointed with the viera on the 1st being so pale I was hoping they would have had Fran's skin tone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    How dare Japan culturally appropriate Caucasians! Justice for honkies! /s
    This was the funniest post in the thread so far.
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    Thanks, had quite a few laughs while reading throught the thread.

    I know it might be an issue in some medias, but it's a fantasy game. There are many 'races' shown, a hell lot of them, races that exists in FFXIV, not in our world. Because it ain't our world.

    Who cares if Alphinaud and Alisaie are pale-skinned if Louisoix is dark-skinned. According to the Encyclopedia Eorzea, Fourchenault Leveilleur (his eldest son and the twins' father) isn't all that dark-skinned either (he's sortof in the middle according to his picture in the book) so who knows, perhaps Louisoix ran out of ink and it got paler and paler in the family...
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