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    Never heard of a person who wasn't of color.
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    I think there's some confusion going on here from two different uses of the term "Caucasian".

    From Wikipedia:

    The Caucasian race (also Caucasoid or Europid) is a grouping of human beings historically regarded as a biological taxon, which, depending on which of the historical race classifications is used, has usually included ancient and modern populations from Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, North Africa, and the Horn of Africa.

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    In the United States, the root term Caucasian is often used, both colloquially and by the US Census Bureau, as a synonym for white. This usage is considered erroneous by anthropologists and other scientists, who note that it conflates an anthropologically valid category (Caucasoid) with the social construct of the "white race". The conflation of Caucasian with white is also demographically misleading since the category Caucasoid has sometimes been considered to include various populations, such as South Asians and North Africans, that are not considered white in a social sense.
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    Final Fantasy is aimed at a Japanese audience, so the characters in the games reflect that. You see in anime time and time again characters that look white, despite being from Japan. It’s kinda weird, but it is what it is.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 05-25-2020 at 09:42 AM.
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    It's the Asstral Calamity, wrought by the dread primal Bahabutt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    Final Fantasy is aimed at a Japanese audience, so the characters in the games reflect that. You see in anime time and time again characters that look white, despite being from Japan. It’s kinda weird, but it is what it is.
    That's not necessarily the case.

    If the story is set in Japan then yes, characters will look "white" and not Asian to us, but Japanese people will just read that as "default human being" and assume they are Japanese.

    But if the story is not set in Japan, then the characters won't be made to look any different, but context will tell you where the story is set. Character and place names, written text, settings, world maps will indicate what ethnicity (or fantasy equivalent) the characters are intended to be.

    Eorzea is clearly a European-styled fantasy setting, regardless of who is writing it or who it is targeted at.
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    Literally the only time the skin-color thing registered with me was when we saw a flashback of Lyse's father in Stormblood, and I immediately concluded "Welp, she's adopted. Probably secretly the real heir to the Garlean throne or something." And it turned out (hopefully) that she's just inexplicably very white.

    But then I made a black miqo'te. Not "appearing to be of African ancestry", but black-black. So what do I know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TyrTry View Post
    Y'shtola. FACK!!!
    Yoshioka. I laughed at that harder than I should have. Thank you.
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    Also you know there's an afro in the game right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That's not necessarily the case.

    If the story is set in Japan then yes, characters will look "white" and not Asian to us, but Japanese people will just read that as "default human being" and assume they are Japanese.

    But if the story is not set in Japan, then the characters won't be made to look any different, but context will tell you where the story is set. Character and place names, written text, settings, world maps will indicate what ethnicity (or fantasy equivalent) the characters are intended to be.

    Eorzea is clearly a European-styled fantasy setting, regardless of who is writing it or who it is targeted at.
    So basically, they’ll make characters look “white” regardless of where they are from? And Japanese people see “white” features as a default human being? Like Suzaku in Code Geass having brown hair and green eyes despite being “Japanese”? That’s still kinda weird.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 05-25-2020 at 10:28 AM.
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    It's the Asstral Calamity, wrought by the dread primal Bahabutt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    So basically, they’ll make characters look “white” regardless of where they are from? And Japanese people see “white” features as a default human being? Like Suzaku in Code Geass having brown hair and green eyes despite being “Japanese”? That’s still kinda weird.
    Yes and no. They will draw characters with what we interpret as "white features" but it's not necessarily intended that way. (And whatever the origins, at this point it's just how it works.)

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Mukokuseki

    https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/...-white/340084/


    On a similar vein, a while back I attended a talk by a picture-book illustrator and she talked about how one of her books had gone well internationally because people would look at the simply-drawn girl and assume it was "someone like them" - she didn't look like any race in particular, but people assumed their own.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 05-25-2020 at 12:09 PM.

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    My race isn't even represented in the main story.

    Check your privilege OP.
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