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    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    That's funny, I don't remember such complaints when WAR was "zomg overpowered 8×fellcleave420blazeit". It's almost like there is a reoccurring theme with guaranteed slot classes in previous expansions getting all uppity that they actually have to compete now and all they can seem to come up with as a rejoinder is "muh job aesthetics" when they had no complaints about the aesthetics of the job beforehand.

    Just food for thought.
    Outside of like 3 posts I've only started posting on these forums since ShB so I might as well have expressed this desire earlier were I more active.

    I didn't complain about current WAR, I'm expressing my desire for a non-tank berserker, a whole different job and I'm giving my reasoning for it. I'm not for turning current WAR into a dps, they can stay how they are. I'm for adding another DPS that fits the fury berserker archetype, as is evident in other posts I made earlier in this thread.
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    Razard Baleth
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    Why are you quoting me? What complaints? I didn't complain about current WAR, I'm expressing my desire for a non-tank berserker, a whole different job and I'm giving my reasoning for it. I'm not for turning current WAR into a dps, they can stay how they are. I'm for adding another DPS that fits the fury berserker archetype, as is evident in other posts I made earlier in this thread.
    I mean:
    The tank aesthetic as well as gameplay style doesn't really facilitate the Fury Berserker Warrior type well.
    Even though "Fury Berserker Warrior type" is the entire lore and aesthetic of the job. It's just about focusing it into a protective force rather than an indiscriminate destructive one. Besides what does such a theorectical class bring to the table in terms of gameplay, varety and lore that WAR doesn't? Other than higher numbers and a red icon.

    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    Outside of like 3 posts I've only started posting on these forums since ShB so I might as well have expressed this desire earlier were I more active.
    Also lol, Whatever you say captain contrarian. No need to get defensive. I'm just giving you some Feedback .

    More to the point, I was using your post as a vector to express a current malady of the forums as of late. You in particular may not have made this "complaint". But I have seen these sorts of feelings being expressed and then fall silent when thier place on the tier list falls then rises again. Look at Summoner for ready confirmation that any complaints about "Job Identity" go down the toilet after a good hard buffing. Apart from outlier weirdo's who think Egi Glamours should be a top priority (lol).

    Just mulling through thoughts I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    I mean:

    Even though "Fury Berserker Warrior type" is the entire lore and aesthetic of the job. It's just about focusing it into a protective force rather than an indiscriminate destructive one. Besides what does such a theorectical class bring to the table in terms of gameplay, varety and lore that WAR doesn't? Other than higher numbers and a red icon.
    Gameplay variety wise I think it can be done by making them a fast one handed dual wield berserker instead of big two handed. One with lower GCD like the other melee dps or with many oGCDs to the point they feel fast and brutal. Lore wise, keeping it Final Fantasy they could go with Viking perhaps? They seem to usually be tanks though in other FF games but perhaps wouldn't matter much if they rebrand it.

    Just looked up and seems that some FF games also have distinct Berserker job. They could go with just "Berserker" and add some unique lore to it. It might fit with the Dalmascan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    Also lol, Whatever you say captain contrarian. No need to get defensive. I'm just giving you some Feedback .

    More to the point, I was using your post as a vector to express a current malady of the forums as of late. You in particular may not have made this "complaint". But I have seen these sorts of feelings being expressed and then fall silent when thier place on the tier list falls then rises again. Look at Summoner for ready confirmation that any complaints about "Job Identity" go down the toilet after a good hard buffing. Apart from outlier weirdo's who think Egi Glamours should be a top priority (lol).

    Just mulling through thoughts I guess.
    I see what you mean. I have only been active in FFXIV forums since Shb as I had said earlier so I wouldn't know if this is the case. If this were true I don't think the complaints have to be completely invalid though, it could very well be that the dissatisfaction with the job theme/aesthetic was always there but the fact that your job is OP or very well placed in meta trumps the theme dissatisfaction for some people and makes people tolerate it more and deem it less worthy of complaining, perhaps out of fear to lose the meta position.

    Could also be a coincidence and/or faulty/biased correlation, idk.
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