You Guys need to UP your housing "fix" attempts.

[EthanXdeath]

But even if SE does finally take away those houses from the multiple house owners, it's not going to make a dent in the thousands of players who still want to get a house but can't. Only a better instanced housing system will accomplish that.

So what exactly are you proposing here? Are you proposing that their be FC housing wards and Personal housing wards? - Which I think would help out somewhat, and is what I'd prefer. Or are you proposing an idea of "unlimited plots?" - I guess this isn't a terrible idea. Or something completely different? I'm very curious.

[Kytrin]

So what exactly are you proposing here? Are you proposing that their be FC housing wards and Personal housing wards? - Which I think would help out somewhat, and is what I'd prefer. Or are you proposing an idea of "unlimited plots?" - I guess this isn't a terrible idea. Or something completely different? I'm very curious.

I believe Jojoya is referring to straight up dynamic instanced housing where as many people as want to can buy a house at a particular location and build, decorate, and upgrade on it. In practice it would be a lot like apartments are currently only no wards and no specific limit on how many there can be. Which isn't a bad idea really, but the devs have made it pretty clear by now that a total overhaul to the system to implement something like that is about as likely as Nidhogg wrecking Washington D.C. out of nowhere.

They'd have to invest significant time/resources to do it, as well as find a way to scrap the current system in a way that wouldn't cause instant fury from the player base, and there's a fair amount of debate if they even CAN do it that way thanks to server/coding/engine limitations. I wouldn't hold my breath on it happening personally. You're FAR more likely to see them rework apartments and switch to a ward system where houses are for FCs only and apartments are for players only. Though given their radio silence on the matter thus far, that's also something I wouldn't specifically hold my breath for currently.

[EthanXdeath]

You're FAR more likely to see them rework apartments and switch to a ward system where houses are for FCs only and apartments are for players only.

Sounds awful.

[Klaleara]

So what exactly are you proposing here? Are you proposing that their be FC housing wards and Personal housing wards? - Which I think would help out somewhat, and is what I'd prefer. Or are you proposing an idea of "unlimited plots?" - I guess this isn't a terrible idea. Or something completely different? I'm very curious.

Imo, guild owned wards would not only help resolve personal housing, but I also think it would be fun.

[Yshtola]

Well, the fact that you control over 40 houses doesn't help anything. For all intents and purposes those are also personal houses, which you claim are the problem. You personally control nearly 1% of all houses on Gilgamesh.

The upwards of 40 or so players who could have a house can't because of you.

Yeah yeah, it's allowed. That doesn't make it right.

You play this game right? I'm asking because I truly doubt you grasp the intricate differences between personal and FC housing. All of these houses have a fully decked out workshop that is being used every single day along with grade 3 wheels being charged. You should find comfort in the fact that all of these houses are seeing heavy usage, because I sure am able to find (more than) 40 personal houses that are completely barren. Where's your whining about them huh?

Imo, guild owned wards would not only help resolve personal housing, but I also think it would be fun.

Of course it would, that's how it used to be. All the problems showed up when personal housing came out

[EthanXdeath]

I sure am able to find (more than) 40 personal houses that are completely barren. Where's your whining about them huh?

I actually agree with you on this, nothing worse than an empty house that someone isn't using. But come on really? Owning 40 "FC's" that you're using heavily, that's excessive and you know it.

[Klaleara]

You play this game right? I'm asking because I truly doubt you grasp the intricate differences between personal and FC housing. All of these houses have a fully decked out workshop that is being used every single day along with grade 3 wheels being charged. You should find comfort in the fact that all of these houses are seeing heavy usage, because I sure am able to find (more than) 40 personal houses that are completely barren. Where's your whining about them huh?



Of course it would, that's how it used to be. All the problems showed up when personal housing came out

Did guilds own houses, or WARDS? I'm saying Guilds should be able to purchase entire wards, so everyone in the guild can purchase a house in the area.

[Yshtola]

I actually agree with you on this, nothing worse than an empty house that someone isn't using. But come on really? Owning 40 "FC's" that you're using heavily, that's excessive and you know it.

That's your objective take on it. We had no intentions on going back to a ward size portfolio of houses after selling the 24 houses under our control in Mist 16. That was until we've been told, 5-6 weeks later, by a senior game master that we would not see a billion gil refund, minus one, for the game's inability to give any kind of warning that money earned by a retainer beyond gil cap is discarded. Forever.

What would you do if you were told your friends had collectively lost a bilion gil? How would you react if the person in charge of the support desk would tell you that they can see your money was discarded, yet couldn't do anything to compensate you because the game is "working as intended". Make an angry rant on here/reddit? Go on a social media crusade? We skipped all that and intended to make the money back. Tenfold. You can despise us all you want, but what we are doing is also "working as intended" according to the support desk. Additionally, the players on the DC are benefiting from lower prices on airship/submarines/schematics materials and minions, because we can afford to sell way lower than the overwhelming majority of other FCs.

Did guilds own houses, or WARDS? I'm saying Guilds should be able to purchase entire wards, so everyone in the guild can purchase a house in the area.

Read the first answer.
https://mewfc.com/frequently-asked-questions

[Klaleara]

That's your objective take on it. We had no intentions on going back to a ward size portfolio of houses after selling the 24 houses under our control in Mist 16. That was until we've been told, 5-6 weeks later, by a senior game master that we would not see a billion gil refund, minus one, for the game's inability to give any kind of warning that money earned by a retainer beyond gil cap is discarded. Forever.

What would you do if you were told your friends had collectively lost a bilion gil? How would you react if the person in charge of the support desk would tell you that they can see your money was discarded, yet couldn't do anything to compensate you because the game is "working as intended". Make an angry rant on here/reddit? Go on a social media crusade? We skipped all that and intended to make the money back. Tenfold. You can despise us all you want, but what we are doing is also "working as intended" according to the support desk. Additionally, the players on the DC are benefiting from lower prices on airship/submarines/schematics materials and minions, because we can afford to sell way lower than the overwhelming majority of other FCs.



Read the first answer.
https://mewfc.com/frequently-asked-questions

So houses, not entire wards. Granted they can work on buying it out, but not actually just purchase an entire ward.

Also, my two cents. This person has the same mentality as some of the worst greed run organizations on the planet. "It's totally legal, so don't be mad at me for screwing you over". But that is just a personal opinion.

[Kytrin]

Sounds awful.

It doesn't have to be. If they can bring apartments to a place where you can upgrade to the equivalent of a medium or large house in terms of size, and you can get a lot of really nice amenities with it then I expect a lot of people would cheerfully buy and upgrade their condos. The reason people don't like them now is because they're the equivalent of a small house's basement with three very in the way windows at the back.

Apartments need some serious love before they'll be seen as a viable alternative to your average player, but if the devs put the work in then they could be truly incredible. Heck, people have been suggesting all sorts of possible upgrades and ways to make apartments work well so they don't lack for ideas at least. And since apartments can't be demolished that eliminates the stress of losing one if you have to unsub because of life.