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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Sadly, everyone suffers from rested XP. This is namely because you start accumulating it immediately after logging out. If there was a delay in Gaining Rested XP such as you do not gain Any bonus for 36 after you log out, it would likely solve the problem in its entirety, but that's just not gonna happen.
    "Suffering" is really ill-placed for something intended to help players who don't have much play time level up more quickly, I think the word you mean is "benefit".

    Personally, I think they should just add an option to turn it off for those that feel insecure with it on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    ITT: Kiote pretends he developed all MMOs and backs his claims up with "facts". "Absolute facts" to be more precise.
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    "Suffering" is really ill-placed for something intended to help players who don't have much play time level up more quickly, I think the word you mean is "benefit".

    Personally, I think they should just add an option to turn it off for those that feel insecure with it on.
    to add: We can also stop making specific claims about how rested XP will work in XIV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote
    Sadly, everyone suffers from rested XP. This is namely because you start accumulating it immediately after logging out. If there was a delay in Gaining Rested XP such as you do not gain Any bonus for 36 after you log out, it would likely solve the problem in its entirety, but that's just not gonna happen.
    I don't think I read anything like that in the producer letter that just hit the lodestone this morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kairyu View Post
    When i didnt think this game could get any easier to level and go and do something like this... Like seriously wtf everyone and brother will have every single dow/dom job lvl 50 by 2.0 release. Leveling jobs should be part of the game or an experience, it was in 11. This game is just a boring grind fest in every aspect with no meaning.. leveling jobs 1-50 is just feels so pointless.. Idk i know most people felt 11 was that way but i felt like leveling had so much more meaning. In 11 having good gear actually meant something while leveling. Having the right party setup.. This game is just so easy.. Stick any 8 people with any jobs with any gear and you have a fast as hell exp party. SO stupid, then they add rested experience.

    Otherwise the rest of the patch info looks suprisingly decent.
    *cry*
    In 11...
    In ffxi...
    But in ffxi...
    But you're not listening... In ffxi...
    In final fantasy xi...
    *cry some more*
    In xi...
    *tears slowly give way to unaldulterated anger*
    IN XI!
    *now your shouting*
    *ppl are starting to stare as a once human figure suffers the sort of mental torture that morphs it's carnal form into something grotesque and writhing with hatred*
    IN FINAL FANTASY XI/11!!!!!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!!!1!!!1!!1!1!!!1!1!1!!1!!
    *smashes a nearby wall in.. Causing the walls nearby to crumble and decay as his animosity seeps into every pore of carbon in close proximity*
    XI!!!!!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1
    *the molecular dissonance lessens and all form of self control has been lost. This creature was once human. It's every extremity pulses with the severity of an anger so extreme that it nears critical mass. Implosion is imminent...*

    The gathered crowd begins to weep... the sadness of the loss o life they just witnessed far too much for their humanity to comprehend... What had caused this they puzzled as it was the very air of their puzzlement so common as to be noticeable...

    What was this FFXI?

    Would it strike again?

    If so... Who was next...?

    *huggles~!* :3
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    A bonus that increases while you don't play is going to make people level faster?! By the Gods, that's going to make it where people that don't have time to play much can level just as much as the people that spend all day playing!

    This doesn't affect anything negatively, but lets ignorantly complain about it anyways! RAWR!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Sadly, everyone suffers from rested XP. This is namely because you start accumulating it immediately after logging out. If there was a delay in Gaining Rested XP such as you do not gain Any bonus for 36 after you log out, it would likely solve the problem in its entirety, but that's just not gonna happen.
    I wish I could have extracted that info from the letter myself, but I could not.

    Basically, I expect rested Exp to be comparable to the Guardian aspect in potency, but with more flexibility. Maybe a bit stronger for really casual player, but then again, I really don't know.

    I trust the devs here for balancing they are aware of all that stuff that people bring here
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    It just amazes me, forums really are no different no matter which game you play. People will complain about everything they possibly can, and they will make up any excuse for it, no matter how silly or insignificant.

    I swear, if SE gave us an in game item as a gift for supporting them, people would not only complain about the gift itself, they would complain about it being handed to them, despite it being a gift.

    Oh wait...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    *cry*
    In 11...
    In ffxi...
    But in ffxi...
    But you're not listening... In ffxi...
    In final fantasy xi...
    *cry some more*
    In xi...
    *tears slowly give way to unaldulterated anger*
    IN XI!
    *now your shouting*
    *ppl are starting to stare as a once human figure suffers the sort of mental torture that morphs it's carnal form into something grotesque and writhing with hatred*
    IN FINAL FANTASY XI/11!!!!!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!!!1!!!1!!1!1!!!1!1!1!!1!!
    *smashes a nearby wall in.. Causing the walls nearby to crumble and decay as his animosity seeps into every pore of carbon in close proximity*
    XI!!!!!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1
    *the molecular dissonance lessens and all form of self control has been lost. This creature was once human. It's every extremity pulses with the severity of an anger so extreme that it nears critical mass. Implosion is imminent...*

    The gathered crowd begins to weep... the sadness of the loss o life they just witnessed far too much for their humanity to comprehend... What had caused this they puzzled as it was the very air of their puzzlement so common as to be noticeable...

    What was this FFXI?

    Would it strike again?

    If so... Who was next...?

    *huggles~!* :3
    And we wept out of fear for the children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    ITT: Kiote pretends he developed all MMOs and backs his claims up with "facts". "Absolute facts" to be more precise.
    I actually do work on MMOs, and I actually do see the marketing data. I know how the whole process goes down, and I know what does and does not work.

    The simple fact of the matter is that when you make an MMO to easy, people get bored and quit. Why do you think this game gets a week long population spike at every patch. It's not because they just want to see what got put in. It's because they do everything and stop playing. If you didn't notice, the largest drop in this games population, besides launch, occurred when PLing became rampant. It wasn't because people hated the PLing, it was because they finished everything in the game so fast they no longer had a reason to play.

    The type of people drawn to these kind of games are the type seeking a long in depth game. Yes, that may not be you, but that makes you the minority. Just like people who play to do Large End game Raids are the minority. That is just how this genre works. Most people play the middle of the game forever. That's how you make money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    I actually do work on MMOs, and I actually do see the marketing data. I know how the whole process goes down, and I know what does and does not work.

    The simple fact of the matter is that when you make an MMO to easy, people get bored and quit. Why do you think this game gets a week long population spike at every patch. It's not because they just want to see what got put in. It's because they do everything and stop playing. If you didn't notice, the largest drop in this games population, besides launch, occurred when PLing became rampant. It wasn't because people hated the PLing, it was because they finished everything in the game so fast they no longer had a reason to play.

    The type of people drawn to these kind of games are the type seeking a long in depth game. Yes, that may not be you, but that makes you the minority. Just like people who play to do Large End game Raids are the minority. That is just how this genre works. Most people play the middle of the game forever. That's how you make money.
    Oh awesome! Which ones and what's your role?
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    Last edited by Rhomagus; 01-31-2012 at 11:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    I actually do work on MMOs
    Oh thank god no wonder the opinions you express sound so stupid and lacking of any solid basis whatsoever - I was worrying for a second that you were quite literally retarded.

    You are clearly a spy, attempting to plant ideas that are bad for the game so that FFXIV will fail, making room for your new MMO "Hug n' Kiss Kitty Online".

    So sneaky!

    Maybe Rokien is your partner in this new MMO... that would explain.... everything!!!!!!!!!

    PS: Your MMO sucks.
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