U/U, Materia and compromise

[Rydin]

Believe it or not.. once again the community is split right down the middle on an issue...
Surprise, right?

There are several issues here though.

1. NM's dropping gear as opposed to mats for gear

2. Unique/untradeable gear vs crafted materia gear (single AND double slotted)

3. Old content being made pointless by new, easy-to-make crafted gear and materia

Here are some possible solutions:

1. Unique Materia
We know the Cobalt Cuirass is the big dog tank piece. What if there was an Adamantoise NM that dropped Adamant Materia that gave +50 def, +50 vit.
But it would use up all materia slots, so you had to put it on a cuirass with no other materia on it. And the cuirass becomes the "Impenetrable Cobalt Cuirass"

2. Unique Materia V2
Materia that only fits 1 piece. Similar to upgrading gear...
At 2.0, there would be 2 NMs (I know hopefully more than 2, but 2 that concern us for this suggestion).
Some type of unnamed as of yet Fire Wyrm and Phoenix. Beating this Fire Wyrm gives you a special Materia that can ONLY be used on an Ifrit weapon. That has some CRAZY stats like Att +100, fire resistance +100
And Phoenix drops the catalyst needed to attach said materia...
I know Ifrit possibly wont be in game as of 2.0, but you get what I mean

3. Melding like repairs
So you've got your adamant materia. But it is Unique/untradeable. Make it so you can put the gear, catalyst and materia in your Bazaar. And since there is a 100% success rate, there is no real risk to doing so

4. Bound gear
A good alternative to unique/untradeable would be gear that is crafted from some big, hard-to-get NM drop is unique, but doesn't become untradeable until you actually equip or use it. Once you do that, it becomes "bound" to you. This would fit in good with the whole "Spiritbonding" and "Aether" lore of the game. I wanted this special gear to be bound to you upon equipping, but my buddy Darkstar likes to try on the gear he makes for people before he gives it to them and thinks it should be bound to you once you actually use it. Either way, the same idea remains

What do you guys think?

[darkstarpoet1]

I wanted this special gear to be bound to you upon equipping, but my buddy Darkstar likes to try on the gear he makes for people before he gives it to them and thinks it should be bound to you once you actually use it.

i only like to do that when i actually get that piece double or triple melded for someone or some specific high level item hq so i can tease them and tell them thanks for the toss lol.

basically my method would be more of the spiritbonding of gear to only begin once you use the gear and it droops below 100%. once that gear has been used that gear would then become untradeable. it just seems it would be easier to make lore to become part of the game for the dev team that way. the some specific gear can become attuned with the char wearing the gear as it is involved in usage while being worn. the gear would no loner accept being used by another char.

my personal opinion is that i hate untradeable gear completely. it is one of the main reasons the markets have crashed. people get an item and then there's no reason for them to buy another piece of gear and once they advance past that piece of gear it just gets thrown away. people aren't willing to buy from the market because they feel the gear is overpriced because they can get better gear for free and people aren't willing to make gear to sell because it sells for less than the materials to make the gear costs.

[Brannigan]

my personal opinion is that i hate untradeable gear completely. it is one of the main reasons the markets have crashed. people get an item and then there's no reason for them to buy another piece of gear and once they advance past that piece of gear it just gets thrown away. people aren't willing to buy from the market because they feel the gear is overpriced because they can get better gear for free and people aren't willing to make gear to sell because it sells for less than the materials to make the gear costs.

The very few worthwhile untradeable pieces aren't the reason the markets are the way they are. Crafting materials are abundant and crafters are common, which makes the gear they create very common. The supply of gear is way higher than the demand for it, which is why you can get a cobalt cuirass for 30k or a dated tarred leather belt for 9k or whatever. People mass produce them and then undercut like crazy.

[darkstarpoet1]

The very few worthwhile untradeable pieces aren't the reason the markets are the way they are. Crafting materials are abundant and crafters are common, which makes the gear they create very common. The supply of gear is way higher than the demand for it, which is why you can get a cobalt cuirass for 30k or a dated tarred leather belt for 9k or whatever. People mass produce them and then undercut like crazy.

that is part of it. another part is people have friends that will make it for them. there's also part that people are already geared out with u/u gear. a part is all the gear that is premade that drops from the coffer chests. there's also a part of the problem with the amount of players looking for items because the game is massively top heavy.

u/u is not the only issue that has crashed the market, but it is one of the parts that has been added to make the whole issue.

[RemVye]

I think SOPA was a bad idea too...


OFT: Why people make these "compromise" threads puzzles me to begin with...

[Rydin]

I think SOPA was a bad idea too...


OFT: Why people make these "compromise" threads puzzles me to begin with...

Is compromise bad? When you have a community as divided as this one, compromise is inevitable

[RemVye]

Is compromise bad? When you have a community as divided as this one, compromise is inevitable

Yes.. because you have ANY say in what SE does with THEIR game whatsoever.

Do you think your 'compromise' is going to cater to everyone? No; read the second post.

Do you think the entire community reads the forums? No; only a small portion does.

Do you think by reaching some 'compromise' that SE is going to say, "Ok guise the ENGLISH forums have reached a compromise let's put this in the game!"; No - they will do whatever they want to do and if they want your input they will ask (player poll).


Lol... I can't go on anymore this is just funny, I feel like I'm being trolled every time I open a thread.

[Rydin]

Yes.. because you have ANY say in what SE does with THEIR game whatsoever.

Do you think your 'compromise' is going to cater to everyone? No; read the second post.

Do you think the entire community reads the forums? No; only a small portion does.

Do you think by reaching some 'compromise' that SE is going to say, "Ok guise the ENGLISH forums have reached a compromise let's put this in the game!"; No - they will do whatever they want to do and if they want your input they will ask (player poll).


Lol... I can't go on anymore this is just funny, I feel like I'm being trolled every time I open a thread.

Awwww... someone is having a "vewy" bad day....

[RemVye]

Awwww... someone is having a "vewy" bad day....

I think you're mistaken. Did you check my signature? I'll give you a moment to do so now.

These forums are a joke the stupidity contained in them rivals the special Olympics... actually, those guys are probably smarterester than the people here. Yup including me

[AshToreth]

And you are only serving to fuel your own opinion lol