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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    Neighborhood housing should be changed to be FC only housing and instanced housing should be introduced for individuals. Grandfather in anyone who already owns a plot to avoid butt hurt, but also introduce a property tax mechanic and reduce the timer for demolition to like two weeks for individuals. It's not perfect, but it's probably the best way to move forward without completely demolishing the old housing system.
    They are not going to remove personal housing from those who own it. We don't need a property tax or a reduction of the housing timer either. If anything the timer needs to go away and housing should be based on a paying sub period. We also need people to stop trying to devise ways about taking housing away from people who own them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    They are not going to remove personal housing from those who own it. We don't need a property tax or a reduction of the housing timer either. If anything the timer needs to go away and housing should be based on a paying sub period. We also need people to stop trying to devise ways about taking housing away from people who own them.
    That is why I suggested grandfathering people who already have a plot to avoid the butt hurt. However, reducing timers to two weeks and adding a tax isn't unreasonable. If you can't visit the house at least once in that time then you probably don't need it as much as say an FC.

    EDIT: Besides adding instanced housing would be the new personal housing. So everyone would have a house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    That is why I suggested grandfathering people who already have a plot to avoid the butt hurt. However, reducing timers to two weeks and adding a tax isn't unreasonable. If you can't visit the house at least once in that time then you probably don't need it as much as say an FC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    That is why I suggested grandfathering people who already have a plot to avoid the butt hurt. However, reducing timers to two weeks and adding a tax isn't unreasonable. If you can't visit the house at least once in that time then you probably don't need it as much as say an FC.
    Unreasonable? Most often I'm out of the country in 2 week intervals. I'm sorry about I'm not using my house in that time, but playing FFXIV when I'm in another country from a hotel just isn't feasible. And then there was that time I was the sickest I'd been in years a few months ago the prevented me from playing the game for over 2 weeks. I'm sorry that I'm sick and not using my home, but life happens that I can't control. FC homes don't perform any vital functions so FC don't need homes anymore then anyone else. And especially now, in this world crisis, 2 week demolition times would be absurdly cruel. It's not like the housing demolition process is clean, I would be looking at weeks of decorating lost, 40+mil in furniture now wasted, 12 mil lost from losing the home and the sudden need to store around 700 furniture items before it gets tossed in the virtual dumpster.

    With a 2 week timer, I'd have to give my password out to someone else just for me to travel abroad, which is against the rules. But that would effectively be my only option to try and save my house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    That is why I suggested grandfathering people who already have a plot to avoid the butt hurt. However, reducing timers to two weeks and adding a tax isn't unreasonable. If you can't visit the house at least once in that time then you probably don't need it as much as say an FC.

    EDIT: Besides adding instanced housing would be the new personal housing. So everyone would have a house.
    Nobody needs a house and frankly I think it's silly that they're required for access to any feature period. There should be other ways to crossbreed and other ways to access an FC workshop given that the system as it stands is so limited.

    And yeah, a two week timer is pretty unreasonable as already said, business trips and vacations can easily end up in the realm of two weeks, and chaining people to the game even more than they already do to keep a house is just crappy. I'd prefer if there was enough housing to not have a timer at all, ESPECIALLY when they don't even save your furniture when your house is demolished. If you can't get on in time to save what you can, it all goes poof, including stuff that cost actual real life cash (which I also think is ridiculous in itself).

    I doubt they'd fully overhaul the whole system, but if they do, instanced housing would need to have all the same features as current housing to even be all that appealing. Size, furnishing, gardening and exterior decorating, and sharing the house with friends are a big part of what I like about housing. I'd happily move to one if it meant I didn't need to worry about a demo timer, but only if it was actually, you know, a house. As opposed to the apartments we have now that are frankly vastly inferior.
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    Last edited by Avidria; 05-08-2020 at 09:09 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    I doubt they'd fully overhaul the whole system, but if they do, instanced housing would need to have all the same features as current housing to even be all that appealing. Size, furnishing, gardening and exterior decorating, and sharing the house with friends are a big part of what I like about housing. I'd happily move to one if it meant I didn't need to worry about a demo timer, but only if it was actually, you know, a house. As opposed to the apartments we have now that are frankly vastly inferior.
    To make it absolutely fair if apartments became on par with the wards, it would need to be either on a demo timer or vastly more expensive if there was no demo timer.

    I say this because I don't think the demo timer is going to go anywhere, but I also don't see them addressing the ward issue until after Ishgard housing is fully accessible.

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    Because I can't type apparently.
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    Last edited by MsMisato; 05-13-2020 at 06:17 AM.