Need harsher penalties.

[Jojoya]

What specifically happened that you think penalties need to be greater and how would making existing penalties harsher than they are solve the perceived problem?

Parties created through Party Finder can be relisted if needed. Duty Finder will refill groups that have someone leave once the assigned leader responds to the prompt (feel free to vote kick the party leader if they aren't doing that).

There's no need to be penalizing everyone more harshly because of a few people the group was likely better off without in the first place.

[Canadane]

The penalties are fine the way they are in my opinion. SE isn't about to change them. Personally I think they need to add leave penalties to Ocean fishing so people can't just go right back and queue for another boat.

They actually designed it that way intentionally. It was mentioned in a live letter I think, something a casual didn't need to commit to if they didn't want to.
Or in the other hand, something a hardcore fisher could leave and requeue if the current one isn't in their favour. I don't think they mentioned this bit lol.

They even programmed it with a but of future-proofing. The less people on a boat the more likely a spectral fish will spawn spectral currents.

[SturmChurro]

You've got to be kidding me.

[KDSilver]

I'm not for the penalties you ask for.

But I can't say I wouldn't like something to be done for pf either.
I've already spent more than one hour waiting my pf to fill. And several times.

Not because there isn't enough people.
But because you get a lot of ppl leaving in the next 5-10min. If they wouldn't, we would have been already full already and could have queue. (happen when we were 7, and if that player waited like literally 10s, we would have been full)
And then, the first one who arrived get bored and eventually leave as well.

And then you're here. Waited for almost 2h, back to the start.
* I was not alone, we were a group of 4 friends

It just make you want to log off.

So maybe a very small cooldown before joining another party ? (5min ?)
If that's leaving for emergencies, it shouldn't be a problem. And it would prevent people for trying every single pf they find in less than 10min until the one with one remaining spot.

[Deceptus]

People are far too flippant, and the game is far too easy.

Penalties need to be significantly more strict.

**leave unchanged the 3 times failure to accept queue penalty. That one works perfectly fine, and can easily be user error. The below listed are nigh unacceptable behavior.**


-Leaving a party finder after joining.

30 minute duty finder/party finder penalty (this would be a new penalty to discourage party finder trolls.)

-Leaving a duty after initiating accept

1 hour duty finder penalty (this is an existing penalty but would be doubled in penalty time.)

-Leaving 3 duties within a 1 week period

48 hour Duty finder/party finder ban (this would be a new penalty to discourage flippant people.)



No one is going to agree, but really there is no reason these numbers shouldnt be doubled or even tripled. "The likelihood of someone accidentally falling into these guidelines is slim to none."

If people are expected to read warnings such as buying the right equipment and dealing with 1 time item restores or, sending the wrong mog station items to the wrong character, or accidentally making someone master of a Free Company and them stealing everything, then you should also be equally responsible for reading the correct party finder, and queue'ing and entering the correct duties.

You can't force people to play in situations they don't want to.

The 30 min penalty is fine.

[Enla]

You can't force people to play in situations they don't want to.

The 30 min penalty is fine.

And can you imagine being punished for leaving a trap party finder? "Clear for a friend" would become even more of a dirty term than it is now due to the potential penalty it'd carry if you left.

[Sandoria]

[Canadane]

And can you imagine being punished for leaving a trap party finder? "Clear for a friend" would become even more of a dirty term than it is now due to the potential penalty it'd carry if you left.

The best PFs are "Clear for a friend" and there's just the one guy in there, no friend...

[Rasikko]

Leaving before the gate drops should probably be a penality

Ah yes the days when nobody could get into Syrcus Tower because tanks would just join and leave over and over again for hours on end.
Penalties are needed, however they don't need to be harsher at all, imo

Reminds me of The Steps of Faith, except everyone that spawned in was doing that.

So a leaver-before-gate-drops, re-queues and does actually get a punishment more severe.

[AduroT]

A friend warned me about Crystal Tower just before I unlocked it and so I never did. I think now that they're making it mandatory I'm basically going to stop queueing for alliance roulette entirely.

Having only recently unlocked and completed Crystal Tower, it seems fine to me? Did they warn you it was too easy or something? It Is fairly easy I think or seems to be. It’s the only Alliance Raid I’ve done. It’s also the first Alliance Raid people are going to do so of course it’s easier than the later ones.