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  1. #391
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    "Feel irrepressibly smug about how good you look in Emet-Selch's coat!"
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  2. #392
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    "Feel irrepressibly smug about how good you look in Emet-Selch's coat!"
    Comes with the careless wave gesture
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  3. #393
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiibieTwuu View Post
    Comes with the careless wave gesture
    you know for a fact that'll cost extra. Emotes don't come with coats xD
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  4. #394
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada_bangs View Post
    you know for a fact that'll cost extra. Emotes don't come with coats xD
    Gives square an excuse to bump it to £20
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  5. #395
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada_bangs View Post
    I dunno... written funny enough it could be a great sales pitch for them. " Ever feel like you're above the rest? Seeing how your peers aren't made for the cut? Do you want to prove your style is far beyond the sights of the many? Then for 12.99 own your very own EMET COAT and walk among your peers in style. Show them you're above the cut. Become Emet today! "
    That's not a genocide tagline, that's just your typical advertisement towards being a boss.

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    Last edited by Edax; 05-02-2020 at 03:10 AM.

  6. #396
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    It is precisely the people who A) love glamours and B) tend to guy flamours off the Mogstation that might not want to be referred to as mundane. I would know because I happen to be in this category, but I happen to also have no interest in that particular glamour nor would I condone the behavior of the fairies who act like rotten bullies. If Emet's outfit ever went up for sale, the sales pitch shouldn't include a pro-genocide stance in the tagline despite that being part of Emet's beliefs. (ex: Purge them all with style!)
    I am also one of those people this ad would be targeting because I also have bought glamours off the mog station. I'm not offended by it, but then again I'm not easily offended. I saw what they were doing with the ad, they were having a play on it and also using alliteration.
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  7. #397
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    "Feel irrepressibly smug about how good you look in Emet-Selch's coat!"
    Haha I would love that!
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  8. #398
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsDontFly View Post
    You do realize that outfit is meant to represent Titania, the almighty fae King/Queen, right? Everything is mundane in comparison to being royalty.
    Y'all went from "I can't dress my waifu without credit card" to "Mom, Maleficent called me basic".

    Seriously, at this point you're just choosing to be offended.

    If Square Enix wanted to give us Titania's outfit they could well do that precisely, give us Titania's actual outfit and not give us something that looks just like the real thing.


    Titania's outfit, including wings is much more majestic than this half-sewed knockoff!.
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  9. #399
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    [QUOTE=Edax;5344647]Conversely I see no reason for players to white knight for the Mogstation and act like spending money there will help the game. It's SE decision to not give Yoshi the money he needs, not the players.



    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Beauty is something that needs to be preserved. You don't have to tear down your customer to get them to buy your product but you can insist they get the best care for their skin to preserve their beauty and that looking the best will make them feel the best. No advertiser will tell a customer they've achieved already absolute perfection but they may say they could get a step closer to it with their product. Even if a customer believes they are already beautiful, if they care about their beauty, then they will take the next step towards perfection. If they didn't care about their beauty to begin with, telling them they have skin problems might just provoke a grudge when they weren't ever going to buy your product to begin with. Consumers can sense when a company want their money and many will instantly know that company doesn't really care about their health.
    No, you dont have to tear down your customers to buy a product. I said it was one way to market stuff. We're going in circles here so Ill just be blunt - Your position comes across as "This is bad cause you should never insult customers". That simply is wrong. There are ways to take jabs at customers in a way (usually playful) to get them to buy things that is more effective a marketing means than, well, kissing ass. When and where this is used is specific to the ad campaign, who your target demo is, what youre selling, how your selling it. It's not a 'one size fits all' marketing strategy, as there is no one size fits all strategy. If youre savvy on marketing, you should know this. Beyond that, there's not much else to say. We can argue nuances and what not till the were old and grey, but unfortunately I suspect youre not gonna budge on your position at this point.
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    [QUOTE=Melichoir;5344742]
    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    No, you dont have to tear down your customers to buy a product. I said it was one way to market stuff. We're going in circles here so Ill just be blunt - Your position comes across as "This is bad cause you should never insult customers". That simply is wrong. There are ways to take jabs at customers in a way (usually playful) to get them to buy things that is more effective a marketing means than, well, kissing ass. When and where this is used is specific to the ad campaign, who your target demo is, what youre selling, how your selling it. It's not a 'one size fits all' marketing strategy, as there is no one size fits all strategy. If youre savvy on marketing, you should know this. Beyond that, there's not much else to say. We can argue nuances and what not till the were old and grey, but unfortunately I suspect youre not gonna budge on your position at this point.
    Well yes, you can jab your customers by using comedy, but that is a very difficult tightrope to walk since comedy is subjective. But most amature marketers often result to tearing down others to make their products more important, which is a fundamental mistake. The reason you should be kissing ass instead of jabbing customers is because customers inherently don't want to be watching advertisements. The biggest problem advertisers face is that inherently nobody wants to listen to have they have to say and jabbing customers, even playfully, can make that problem worse. This is why I suggest buttering up the consumer instead.
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