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  1. #371
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    I'm not crying. I'm not upset. I've professionally critiqued the marketing from a marketing standpoint and people tell me I'm critiquing "literally nothing".
    Except that the critique isn't really about this ad, it's about how ads shouldn't insult the people they're trying to sell to.

    So for those of us who aren't reading "mundane to marvellous" as an insult, it's not critiquing the ad. It's critiquing a nebulous concept that ads shouldn't be insulting... but this one isn't, so where's the problem again?

    This whole debate over the ad was started by the same person who spent several previous posts trying to push the idea that SE was deliberately putting poor-quality gear in game to drive us all to buying from Mog Station instead. They saw the ad wording and seized on it as further proof that SE was promoting their cash shop gear by outright saying everything in-game was "mundane" and not good enough. Which isn't being said in any way, shape or form.

    (How many people would have even read the tagline, let alone absorbed it or stopped to consider what it was calling mundane, if it hadn't been pointed out and made so much fuss over?)
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    Last edited by Iscah; 05-01-2020 at 09:59 AM.

  2. #372
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    There seems to be a misunderstanding about what is, and isn't, part of the Mog Station store.

    Retainers are not purchased through the Mog Station store. They are an additional amount to your current subscription on a monthly basis. $2 per retainer. If you get six of them, that's an additional $12 you will be billed for on a monthly basis, from your account subscription page, as part of your subscription. It is not billed from the Mog Station store.

    Thank you for your attention.
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  3. #373
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    I'm not crying. I'm not upset. I've professionally critiqued the marketing from a marketing standpoint and people tell me I'm critiquing "literally nothing".
    So, you work in marketing, I assume. What major campaigns have you been involved in, if one may have the temerity to ask?
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  4. #374
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    so we're at "They chose a bad marketing approach".


    OK.. and this proves?
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  5. #375
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Retainers are not purchased through the Mog Station store.
    They are indeed purchased within Mog Station - as is account renewal and any other payment related to the game - although it's a different section to the "optional items" shop.
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  6. #376
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrenn View Post
    Today I check my email and see this:



    Really SE? You're going to full on call out your OWN designs in game mundane?

    This is literally what I was talking about. They're not even hiding it.

    edit for clarity: this is the definition of mundane: common; ordinary; banal; unimaginative.
    You do realize that outfit is meant to represent Titania, the almighty fae King/Queen, right? Everything is mundane in comparison to being royalty.
    Y'all went from "I can't dress my waifu without credit card" to "Mom, Maleficent called me basic".

    Seriously, at this point you're just choosing to be offended.
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  7. #377
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsDontFly View Post
    "Mom, Maleficent called me basic".
    A masterful summary.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  8. #378
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    Your subscription fee goes to Square-Enix.

    The Mogstation profits specifically go directly to the team working on FFXIV.

    That's why I support the Mogstation. Yoshi's even flatly admitted it was because of the Mogstation they could do stuff like get new datacenters, which have been a lot better than the old ones by a noticeable amount. The Mogstation funds things that the parent company, SE, won't necessarily fund. There's even a fairly reasonable chance that the Mogstation helped fund Viera and Hrothgar, to be honest--as those were both things fans were wanting and got (admittedly not in the way people probably wanted them, but still better than none at all, yeah?)

    This really really does boil down to: If you don't like it, that's fine, don't buy stuff from the Mogstation. But the Mogstation is overall much more beneficial to the game than not having it, despite how gloom and doomy people get about not getting some outfit or mount they wanted.
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  9. #379
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shofie View Post
    Your subscription fee goes to Square-Enix.

    The Mogstation profits specifically go directly to the team working on FFXIV.
    I wonder, how long we will fund their other games, 2 more parts of Seven remake for sure, they even pushed Yoshi to work on 16 . People funding server with extra money for a billionaire company is not an achievement, it's embarrassment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    I wonder, how long we will fund their other games, 2 more parts of Seven remake for sure, they even pushed Yoshi to work on 16 . People funding server with extra money for a billionaire company is not an achievement, it's embarrassment.
    Money from 7 also funds XIV. Money gets pooled at a company, then budgeted out accordingly. Extra money from the cash shop is on top of the budget they receive from SE. Its how nearly every company in the world works.
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