Mentor needs to mean something again

[RyuSaarva]

Oh the horror, healer slow raised you, ban this mentor this instant, he should had had the power to move you out of all the aoes.

[Edax]

even had the nerve to slow ress me at the end of a fight.

He slow rezzed you? OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

[BasicBlake]

While parts of the OP's post seem very nitpicky, most mentors I have met use the status as an excuse for everything.

"I can say this stuff I'm a mentor" "As a mentor I can get you banned" oh the things you see out and about in this world we call FFXIV.

[Rocond]

had the nerve to slow ress me at the end of a fight.

He actually sounds like a great guy. At the end of a fight most healers won't rez you at all and expect you to run back because of weakness.

[Arillyn]

He actually sounds like a great guy. At the end of a fight most healers won't rez you at all and expect you to run back because of weakness.

Right? Not to mention - maybe swiftcast wasn't even up because it had been used for something else?

[MPK]

I doubt people actually go up to mentor for advice.

[Liam_Harper]

It was great to get rid of bads in the last wave with too low of commendations. Which is a good formula to determine someone isn't "bad" with people. Whether it's social skill, doing decent damage, not being a 0 dps healer, etc. The more comms you have, the more likely you've done random party content for a considerable amount of time.

Comms aren't a definite measure of ability at PvE or people skills.

A lot of very good players don't have that many comms, because they simply stick to high end content via PF and statics. This content can involve just as much interaction, since you need to discuss tactics or strats and requires a greater knowledge of classes. The guy with thousands of comms probably knows more about dungeons, but he's hardly a more knowledgeable player or social expert overall and the guy with 500 comms who raid lead his static to Ultimate Legend is hardly a "bad".

Agreed the craft mentor requirements are an utter joke. Much like crafting in general right now.

[Avatre]

"As a mentor I can get you banned" oh the things you see out and about in this world we call FFXIV.

If a mentor actually says that, I'm pretty sure that would be against TOS under threats - even though it is a hollow threat, still could be defined as one, thus be a reportable offence.

[frijole]

I think about this a lot, especially as a relatively new player to this game. Why are commendations able to be given to anyone, even if they do not contribute anything in terms of communication? Seems like most people get commendations based purely on playing a tank or healer class (not that I don't think that merits some form of recognition in certain types of content). Is there no way to program something in that opts for a commendation to be given to someone if say, for example, they wrote something into chat?

But then again, maybe I am just assuming the commendation is for good communication and not taking into account actual performance. Someone mentioned earlier that they had 5000 commendations but can still be toxic to other players regardless of a mentor badge or not. Just seems like commendations are kinda pointless in regards to "mentoring" and are something to farm for achievements, mounts, etc. Seems like if there is to be some sort of evolution of the "mentor" title that it can't be (in it's current state) restricted to some arbitrary thing like commendations or volunteered for. I only kind of care about this since, as a newer player, it really sucks dealing with "mentors" that don't provide any information about the game. I have to go outside of the game through discord, youtube videos, etc to answer one basic question.

I don't know what to expect, I played wow and it was like this as well. Just airing my grievances and saw this thread.

[frostmagemari]

Honestly, the mentor status needs to mean nothing, rather than mean something (and in meaning nothing, it will go back to meaning something).
What i mean is, there should be no rewards attached to being a mentor, no roulette, etc... If someone is a mentor, they should do it to simply be a mentor. Put on the crown because you want to be helpful; but (many) people don't go for mentor to be helpful, they shoot for it because there are tangible rewards for becoming one and use it for those rewards.

Now, does every mentor do this? Of course not, we only tend to remember the people that rub us the wrong way and not the people that don't get in the way of our day; but it seems to come up enough to see that there are at least a good subset of mentors that are starting to ruin this for the rest of them.