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  1. #51
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    The positivity in this thread is definitely nice to see. I just hope the understanding continues in the future given that the impact here might be felt for months or even years depending on how long the pandemic takes to manage.

    And for those who are personally suffering in this time, I really am sorry for it. I know it's probably little comfort for some stranger on the internet to say it but I hope you manage to come through this well even if it seems dark right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    Maintaining patch schedules now is living hell - I would know since I work for a company that isn't delaying games/patches despite everyone working from home. It's absolutely awful and they are pushing forward at the expense of the physical and MENTAL health of their employees. Several people have already quit from my company because of how horrible and taxing it is to keep up the corporate schedule while all of this is going down.
    Good on SE for taking the health of their employees into consideration.
    Working remotely from comfy home is living hell, then what should tell those working in transport/food/health industry?

    IT always full of themselves, as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Working remotely from comfy home is living hell, then what should tell those working in transport/food/health industry?

    IT always full of themselves, as usual.
    Generalization is fun!

    Anyways, while he clearly exaggerated, it isn't exactly all comfy rainbows and rose smelling farts. Working from that comfy non-work environment, under the same load, with the technical and practical issues it introduces to the work process, it usually means extra hours, or lowered output.

    Wouldn't compare the difficulty to some of the front line jobs in this situation (for multiple reasons), but for the sake of fairness, lets not belittle it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lersayil View Post
    Generalization is fun!

    Anyways, while he clearly exaggerated, it isn't exactly all comfy rainbows and rose smelling farts. Working from that comfy non-work environment, under the same load, with the technical and practical issues it introduces to the work process, it usually means extra hours, or lowered output.

    Wouldn't compare the difficulty to some of the front line jobs in this situation (for multiple reasons), but for the sake of fairness, lets not belittle it either.
    Sorry but no.
    IT remote jobs does not even stand close to what regular keyworkers has to come by with during the lockdown. A lot of people are on sick notes or staying at home, and those forced to do those jobs have to work extra hard due to the staff shortage and higher demand.
    If someone is working in IT and have problem to set up their job remotely then just oof.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Sorry but no.
    IT remote jobs does not even stand close to what regular keyworkers has to come by with during the lockdown. A lot of people are on sick notes or staying at home, and those forced to do those jobs have to work extra hard due to the staff shortage and higher demand.
    If someone is working in IT and have problem to set up their job remotely then just oof.
    Ah yes, oof. A shorthand term for unpaid vacation or lay off. Totally not an issue for those involved.

    My point was: these are hard times for everyone. We all have our issues. Some, more than others. It's good to have perspective, but no need to belittle a group, just because another has its different kind of worse problems. Even more so, since the guy you responded to made no such claims to begin with.
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    Last edited by Lersayil; 04-12-2020 at 04:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Working remotely from comfy home is living hell, then what should tell those working in transport/food/health industry?

    IT always full of themselves, as usual.
    I never said that those working transport/food/health aren't going through a hard time either. Those folks are doing God's work. However, one person's struggles do not invalidate another's.

    IT is putting themselves through the wringer to please people at the expense of their own happiness/mental health. Imagine working all day, every day because servers are buckling under the strain of everyone being locked at home all day. Or working all day because customer support cannot keep up with the incoming volume of tickets. Or being subjected to constant verbal abuse, gore pics, and death threats because you're not doing something a customer wants as fast as they want because the employees cannot keep up with the sheer influx of players/requests and the normal patch cycle.

    Once again, bless to everyone who is working at this time, no matter the job. Everyone is putting their physical and/or mental health on the line to make people happy/healthy. Bless to the non-essential companies who take into consideration their employees and not cowtow to babies who couldn't cope if their patch didn't come out RIGHT NOW!!!!
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    People's lives and well beings are more important than a patch for a video game. I hope everyone stays safe. Please take as much time as you need. As this has been said before, we are all in this together!
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    Not sure what scare this is all about I got it lasted 4 days and was over it. When I got West Nile virus in the past that was way worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Not sure what scare this is all about I got it lasted 4 days and was over it. When I got West Nile virus in the past that was way worse.
    I'm not sure if you're serious or not, but just because you - probably a young and rather healthy person (my asumptions may be wrong, in which case I apologise) - only had mild symptoms doesnt mean this virus isnt to be taken seriously.
    People with pre-existing conditions and/or of old age might have a very, very different experience.
    Furthermore the virus can be transmitted directly from human to human - considering that it develops in your throat, coughing or even spitting some out is very likely. Thats why social distancing is so important: To lower the chance that you get infected by someone else or that you infect someone else (please tell me that you stayed away from people as much as possible for at least 14 days and not only for the 4 days you had symptoms... you can transmit the virus even when you dont show any symptoms...) Looking at West Nile virus: Thats transmitted through gnats - so social distancing would do nothing, other methods probably will and those will probably be taken in areas where there are gnats that are know to transmit the virus.

    Lastly: We dont have a (curative) treatment or vaccine for Covid-19 - and yes, we dont have one for West Nile either, but as I could hopefully make clear: Its a lot easier for Covid-19 to spread through an entire population thats cuddling in public transport, offices, schools, restaurants, parks etc.
    Hospitals in most countries arent prepared for everyone to get sick and in need of a hospital bed - even if only a fraction of people will need a hospital bed and help breathing, the hospitals are not prepared.

    You got lucky. Grats.
    Others werent so lucky. As of right now 2.673 people in germany were unlucky enough to die because of the virus - and afaik germany only counts the deaths directly linked to the virus, not those were someone with a tone of pre-existing conditions that probably would have killed them in the next few weeks AND caught the virus on top died.
    Globally over 100.000 people died because of Covid-19 - not everyone only has mild symptoms.
    You got lucky.
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    Last edited by Vidu; 04-12-2020 at 09:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Not sure what scare this is all about I got it lasted 4 days and was over it. When I got West Nile virus in the past that was way worse.
    Think of the spanish flu. The virus itself isn't really all that scary on its own, but it spreads fast and complications combined with previous conditions most prevalent in older age groups makes it... well, all that scary.

    Also, the load on infrastructure. I'm sure you've seen the graphs about how we should flatten the rate of spread, otherwise we overload the healthcare system, which would lead to even more of a dire situation.

    For the young to mid age groups its less about getting sick, and more about worrying for older family members, and mitigating the crisis before it leads to an even worse situation.
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    Last edited by Lersayil; 04-12-2020 at 07:08 PM.

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