Quote Originally Posted by Kraniel View Post
It's not unfair for me personally since i'm currently doing the savage/extreme trials. I was saying it's unfair for those who don't want to do them at all.
Yeah you're right, i meant Eden's Gate, not Eden's Verse. And it's a real pain to find a party to do those nowadays.

I expected you to say that people can just wait until the next expansion to do the content unsynced, but that's not a real argument. Expansions come out about every two years. You're basically asking the whole casual community to wait for two years to get the dyeable version of gear they already own.

On the other hand, when some players asked to delay savage of 1~2 weeks at most, the hardcore raiders said they wanted the content right away, just because (see this thread for instance).

In the end, that's why i'm saying that there are other ways to reward hardcore players, without frustrating a whole chunk of the community (because just as you, i too think that players who clear difficult content should get exceptional rewards). All i want is for SE to explore those options.
Then is it also unfair that someone who doesn't want to PvP can't get the Frontline wins Leader Coat? Or someone who doesn't like fashion report can't get the short-shorts from the vendor? You can get it if you just wait, is not an invalid argument. Like I said the part of the rewards for those doing savage as it is current is that they get that dyable glamour piece right away, if they so choose. Everyone else can get it later, easily. Just as with mounts and titles. The only exception is Ultimate titles and weapon glamours, as Ultimate fights cannot be done unsynced.

That thread had plenty of hardcore raiders in support for delaying savage for a week or two. In fact, most of the people in that thread period (in either position of the discussion) were savage raiders.