Locking dyable artifact gear behind a extreme trial, good idea?

[dinnertime]

This.
The gear isn't anything but glamour at this point, so what even was the rationale behind locking glamour gear behind an EX trial that, once you get what you want out of it, there's no incentive to even do it any more? It'll end up like BLU content where if you miss out during the initial rush good luck ever getting a consistent group to do it down the road.

Literally the incentive is the rewards, there is nothing else after that. That is basically every battle content in this game.
The AF could be quick and cheap catch-up gear for people who are new or are gearing up their alts. It also has 5 materia slots which could be useful. It's not entirely useless to just brush it off as only for glamour.

Unless I'm missing something you can't get it without doing EX.

I don't care about the AF myself, I do cosplay character with level 1 gear and usable by all jobs.

But just because its not my problem doesn't mean I cant understand there is people who have different tastes and their friends if they have some might not be interested in doing that content.

Good for you if you like EX and your friends too but please understand not everybody share your experience.

Obviously. If you want something, you do what's required to get it. There is no "missing" here, you're more than welcome to do it or not, and it will be available indefinitely. Again, you're not being forced to do it.

Yes it's pretty unfortunate that there's no other, no "easier" way to get it, but not everything in this game is catered towards everyone either.

[Skivvy]

Stupid question, but do you have to run the trial on the job you want the gear for? :X

[Mavrias]

Stupid question, but do you have to run the trial on the job you want the gear for? :X

Nope. The trial drops coffers to roll on and you just need to swap to the job you want the piece for when you open it. It also drops totems which you can exchange for coffers in mor dhona.

[Skivvy]

Nope. The trial drops coffers to roll on and you just need to swap to the job you want the piece for when you open it. It also drops totems which you can exchange for coffers in mor dhona.

Thank you

[WhyAmIHere]

Literally the incentive is the rewards, there is nothing else after that. That is basically every battle content in this game.
The AF could be quick and cheap catch-up gear for people who are new or are gearing up their alts. It also has 5 materia slots which could be useful. It's not entirely useless to just brush it off as only for glamour.

What's easier to do:
Farm an EX trial and pray to RNGesus for rolls, at a maximum of 10 runs to get the total number of totems for one job;
Buy crafted gear off the MB;
or run roulettes on a level 80 job and get AleTomes?

The incentive is stupid because the reward is A) Invalidated gear-score wise already by existing gear, and B) it's more work than the other methods of getting equivalent or better gear.

[Raven2014]

No, back when the first step was fresh, titan hm was a wall to most people. Heck, people couldn't even get ifrit down without mage lb3 and a PLD dedicated to stuns.

If you weren't around then you wouldn't understand. The first content sales were not raids. They were titan hard lol.
There was a strat of auto attacking titan for the first bit of the fight just to build up the lb gauge.

I'd wager titan hm back then was harder than this ex trial is now.

I know what you're talking about, since I remember trying to get the relic+1 back in the day was a pissed experience for the elemental trial, that's why FCs back then tried to organize runs weekly for member to get through it.

But tbf, one of the reason why titan was hard because the server latency was really poor, you basically had to predict and move early in order to get out in time. Ever since they improve the server response time titan feels almost like slow motion now.

Then there is issue of the player base's skill level. I main a PLD at the time and got raged often by others (usually the DPS) for not interrupting 'every single eruption', despite I told I can only do 2 - 3 times before he's immune. That's basically the mindset of relic players at the time: carry me or you suck! When I told my FC this, the more ... respectable players (skill wise) just laughed and said "tell them to learn how to dodge or GTFO, it's not the tank job to carry them".

I know people tend to meme about how the games become more casual/easier, but that's just confirmation bias. If anything bot the difficulty and the floor skill level of the players had increased greatly over years, as long as you don't wear a rose tinted nostalgia class when looking at the past.

[Hyperia]

4 days of trying and nothing but very low dps groups and deaths to one shot mechanics... if I can’t get a clear by this weekend I’m done with it. The stress of it all is too much... I want the glam but not at the expense of my health.

[dinnertime]

What's easier to do:
Farm an EX trial and pray to RNGesus for rolls, at a maximum of 10 runs to get the total number of totems for one job;
Buy crafted gear off the MB;
or run roulettes on a level 80 job and get AleTomes?

The incentive is stupid because the reward is A) Invalidated gear-score wise already by existing gear, and B) it's more work than the other methods of getting equivalent or better gear.

Tomestone gear takes a while because of the weekly limit. Same with doing Eden normal right now.
Buying the crafted gear is the easiest...if you are a crafter/gatherer who can craft it or get it crafted. And yes if you have the gil to buy it from the marketboard.

Doing the EX trial could be more work, or it could save you more time, but it still has tomes as a fail-safe so even if your RNG is bad, you'll still have the chance to get something, plus you need 19 runs to get the complete set if you get nothing. It's still a good alternative as catch-up or alt gear. The item level is still decently high with 5 materia slots. So I really don't see how the incentive is "stupid".

[WhyAmIHere]

Tomestone gear takes a while because of the weekly limit. Same with doing Eden normal right now.
Buying the crafted gear is the easiest...if you are a crafter/gatherer who can craft it or get it crafted. And yes if you have the gil to buy it from the marketboard.

Doing the EX trial could be more work, or it could save you more time, but it still has tomes as a fail-safe so even if your RNG is bad, you'll still have the chance to get something, plus you need 19 runs to get the complete set if you get nothing. It's still a good alternative as catch-up or alt gear. The item level is still decently high with 5 materia slots. So I really don't see how the incentive is "stupid".

But you're not disproving my argument at all.
Just because tome gear takes *longer* to get only makes it more time consuming, which is a variable that can't be fully taken into account because you never know who you wind up with in DF. Just like how you cant always control who you get in PF unless you have a preformed group.
And correcting me by saying you'll need 19 runs of the EX just proves my case even more, because I was not aware of that number of runs.
Jesus, that's awful.

[ForteNightshade]

This.
I'm on-board with the side of "this isn't okay just to get glamour gear," and I'm definitely not what anyone'd consider as casual.
I'm just burned out at this point. The gear isn't anything but glamour at this point, so what even was the rationale behind locking glamour gear behind an EX trial that, once you get what you want out of it, there's no incentive to even do it any more? It'll end up like BLU content where if you miss out during the initial rush good luck ever getting a consistent group to do it down the road.
Aside from that why is it just the armor? I was wanting to dye the GNB AF4 Lionheart, but nope.

I suspect their aim was for it to hopefully take the more casual playerbase longer, thereby giving them more to do. We know the original 5.3 date was mid-June. That means this content was supposed to last through May at the very least.