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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    And? This isn't a competitive game. The competition that community makes it is over in less than 24 hours anyway. This can only benefit the NA/EU pug scene and weaken the grip that statics have on raiding in this part of the community.
    It's not about competition or anything.
    It's about people trying to "cheat" with that system.
    Instead of doing your weekly clear like usual with people needing it, they could pretend anything to guanrantee there are 7 "helpers" to get all the loot for themselves and don't need to roll against others.
    It would make it unfair for people rolling their loot against 7 others people. They'd automatically gain more gear than others. This isn't what is wanted.
    If they lifted restriction, it should come with a rework of the system so that there's no abuse and looks fair for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    It's not about competition or anything.
    It's about people trying to "cheat" with that system.
    Instead of doing your weekly clear like usual with people needing it, they could pretend anything to guanrantee there are 7 "helpers" to get all the loot for themselves and don't need to roll against others.
    It would make it unfair for people rolling their loot against 7 others people. They'd automatically gain more gear than others. This isn't what is wanted.
    If they lifted restriction, it should come with a rework of the system so that there's no abuse and looks fair for everyone.
    Honestly, I think it's well past time SE implemented a personal loot system. No worries about who has or hasn't cleared in a given week, no pressure to make alts to avoid impacting others' loot if you want to raid more, etc etc.

    That said, this isn't exactly a new suggestion - SE doesn't seem to care to go in this direction. So, failing that, I'd rather see them just remove the chest reduction. Yes, there's some potential for abuse - but IMO, the impact of the current system is worse.

    But IDK, maybe I just don't think it's the end of the world if people don't get screwed over on loot...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    It's not about competition or anything.
    It's about people trying to "cheat" with that system.
    Ok, give each chest a chance not to appear, increasing by 12.5% or so for each member who has cleared that week, as well as making members who have cleared ineligible for loot. 7 have the clear? The chance loot appears for the last person is much smaller, but still exists, similar to the chance of getting loot from rolling against 7 others.

    There are better solutions than simply deleting half the loot because a single person wants to help a friend out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Ok, give each chest a chance not to appear, increasing by 12.5% or so for each member who has cleared that week, as well as making members who have cleared ineligible for loot. 7 have the clear? The chance loot appears for the last person is much smaller, but still exists, similar to the chance of getting loot from rolling against 7 others.

    There are better solutions than simply deleting half the loot because a single person wants to help a friend out.
    I'm not defending the current system at all, don't get me wrong.
    But explaining why you can't remove one thing without reworking the whole system.

    It bothered me many times and still does when "helping" precisely.
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