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    Player deadman1204's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    Also while I'm here...

    Healers...

    So long as you fail to keep dps and tanks alive because you refuse to cast or use a "GCD" heal/shield to push more damage, Square-Enix should not, and I encourage them -to not- add complexity to the healer role.
    Ya, this is about 65% of all SCH I've grouped with. Even in 8mans and alliance raids as the other healer, I swear SCH think the fairie is all they need to do for healing
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    Ya, this is about 65% of all SCH I've grouped with. Even in 8mans and alliance raids as the other healer, I swear SCH think the fairie is all they need to do for healing
    Are the SCHs not healing damage that needs to be healed, or do you think every little scrape needs to be taken care of? Most WHMs I've run into can't stand to see someone missing 10 hp without dropping a cure II.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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    Player deadman1204's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    Are the SCHs not healing damage that needs to be healed, or do you think every little scrape needs to be taken care of? Most WHMs I've run into can't stand to see someone missing 10 hp without dropping a cure II.
    not healing at all really. But more importantly, also not shielding people either....
    Never rezzing if dps makes a mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    not healing at all really. But more importantly, also not shielding people either....
    Never rezzing if dps makes a mistake.
    Preshielding is not necessary unless you cannnot survive a regular, unavoidable aoe without it.
    If that's the case you are either grossly under geared for the content or collected stacks like Pokémon and both is on you.

    I preshield pulls with my healers because it give me more time to dps. The more I can do on the run the less I have to do during the actual fight. But I'm not preshielding aoes or tankbusters because it's a waste of time.
    Simply healing the damage taken with one of my more efficient ogcds is far better than hardcasting adlo to preshield for a tiny amount.

    And if swift is on CD I don't hardcast ress unless shit hit the fan and we absolutely need that person alive asap. Otherwise I wait the few sec until it comes off CD and instant ress. Not to mention you don't always have the time to stand still for 7sec while dpsing is still possible because of the short casts.
    You died from something avoidable? Wait till swift comes off CD and if someone more important (= healer, tank, someone generally playing mechanics well) is also dead, get in line. They're first.
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    Kiro Isamu
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    Ya, this is about 65% of all SCH I've grouped with. Even in 8mans and alliance raids as the other healer, I swear SCH think the fairie is all they need to do for healing
    But did you die? If so, was it from unavoidable damage or from undodged AoE and mechanics? I very rarely see a healer who lets the party die by unavoidable damage while they were just dpsing.

    I've seen people get upset when their health is lacking and see the healer dps, even though they don't die (idk why you're complaining then). If the healer knows the fight, they can safely let your HP edge while they wait till you either took sufficient damage to justify the heal, or they wait on oGCD cooldown. Staying alive is all that matters, amount of HP is not.

    Many 8 man healers overheal so you'll often find 1 healer mostly dps, especially when the other healer refuses to dps at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    Ya, this is about 65% of all SCH I've grouped with. Even in 8mans and alliance raids as the other healer, I swear SCH think the fairie is all they need to do for healing
    This comment is why good healers often don't get coms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    Ya, this is about 65% of all SCH I've grouped with. Even in 8mans and alliance raids as the other healer, I swear SCH think the fairie is all they need to do for healing
    Cause most Scholar healing comes from oGCD and are strong ?
    This isn't because you don't see Scholar cast bar be a heal that he doesn't heal.
    That's a misconception A LOT of player do. Thinking scholar doesn't heal at all while he does, but it's "invisible" and so it's better thinking that's the other who do all the work.
    It's not.

    65% of player complaining about scholar not healing don't understand how it's played.

    OR...

    The other healer is panicked everytime and overheal like crazy.
    Succor/adlo spamming is absolutely not efficient from a healing/dps/mana perspective.

    Healer role is already in a bad spot gameplay-wise to don't need people's whining while they don't understand a thing at it
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    Last edited by KDSilver; 03-15-2020 at 02:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    Ya, this is about 65% of all SCH I've grouped with. Even in 8mans and alliance raids as the other healer, I swear SCH think the fairie is all they need to do for healing
    I heal as much as neccessary for everyone to survive, given they play somewhat decently.
    If I know for a fact you can't die (not even from stupidity) for the next 20s, I'm not going to heal right away. I'll wait until some strong oGCD comes off cd and let natural hp reg do its thing while I do something useful like using the time to dps. And if I have a co-healer who fights for every bit of hps and immediately heals everyone to full hp... why should I start a dick fight and do the same? In that case my time and resources are spent much better on dps.

    It's not a healer's responsibility to heal every little bit of missing HP, it's only to make sure everyone survives. If you didn't die, you have no reason to complain. And just because you don't see a healer spamming GCD heals doesn't mean he isn't healing. Where do think the sparkly little Seraph or the fairy hot comes from? Or that blue circle on the ground? From a SCH actively healing.
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