Samurai Sword Pressure/Shoha Stacks

[xxvaynxx]

Samurai should be able to hold I wanna say about 5 Stacks.
My reasoning is because on a certain point in your double midare, you have press shoha then tsubame midare really fast so you don't hold the GCD for too long and clip, also makeing sure you don't forget and don't overfill on the shoha stack.
Its kinda clunky the way it is now and extra stacks will fix it.

[Ramura_Sono]

Hard no. SAM needs something to actually keep track of. Jinpu and Shifu are literally nothing. Sens are nothing. Even Kenki itself is nothing since every single sen combo generates enough kenki for Kaiten. It's no more clunky than having to weave any other oGCD after midare, or tsubame.

If SAM just absolutely must receive such a change it should be no more than 1 extra stack. If the core of your complaint is simply, truely, honestly, "using shoha betwixt midares is clunky" and not "I want to be able to get double shoha into raid buffs always" than a single extra stack is more than enough.

[xxvaynxx]

Hard no. SAM needs something to actually keep track of. Jinpu and Shifu are literally nothing. Sens are nothing. Even Kenki itself is nothing since every single sen combo generates enough kenki for Kaiten. It's no more clunky than having to weave any other oGCD after midare, or tsubame.

If SAM just absolutely must receive such a change it should be no more than 1 extra stack. If the core of your complaint is simply, truely, honestly, "using shoha betwixt midares is clunky" and not "I want to be able to get double shoha into raid buffs always" than a single extra stack is more than enough.

Hard no because you feel samurai needs something to keep track of? That's a pretty bad argument seeing as other melees have nothing to keep track of no more than samurai if you think that.

Tell me. Which melee has to really focus on keeping try of? Blood of the dragon? Huton? Grease lightning? Twin snakes?
See where I'm going? Why does sam have to be an expectation according to you.

Don't get me wrong, it's not hard to press both quickly but there has been times I have forgotten.
It is the same as pressing a Ogcd between midare and tsubame but why would you? Could just wait after tsubame.
What's different is Shoha isn't a timed Ogcd you can only use it with 3 stacks.
So if mess up you get a pretty hefty dps lost since you'll be behind.
1 stack at most of sword pressure wouldn't buff sam, just a QoL.

[Renkei]

Samurai keeps track of Boss Aoes so they can proc Third Eye.

[xxvaynxx]

Samurai keeps track of Boss Aoes so they can proc Third Eye.

Monks keep track of aoes for riddle of earth.
Also using seigan is such a small gain you can not even touch it.

[Duskane]

Hard no because you feel samurai needs something to keep track of? That's a pretty bad argument seeing as other melees have nothing to keep track of no more than samurai if you think that.

Tell me. Which melee has to really focus on keeping try of? Blood of the dragon? Huton? Grease lightning? Twin snakes?
See where I'm going? Why does sam have to be an expectation according to you.

You are comparing Shoha stacks to general buffs which not what it is
More like Chakra or Mirage dive its no different
Other Melee have multiple Buffs and OGCD they have to keep track of while Samurai has hardly anything

[Eliadil]

You are comparing Shoha stacks to general buffs which not what it is
More like Chakra or Mirage dive its no different
Other Melee have multiple Buffs and OGCD they have to keep track of while Samurai has hardly anything

I mean, it's not like a Sam has strictly nothing to worry about. We focus on Tsubame cooldown mainly, as well as keeping 100% uptime in order not to drift our rotation.

But I agree, this isn't the change we need on sam. Shoha feels clunky sometimes but that's not the skill itself, more like Tsubame that has to get used instantly or else it goes to waste. Since the 5.0 class changes preview were released peoples said that having Tsubame only usable on the next GCD following a Midare was a terrible idea due to how it forces you into a clunky rotation (erasing a yukikaze sen just to line up every time) since we can't have enough or too few SkS to align correctly.

Everything else on sam is fine and can be adjusted. Tsubame however forces player to adapt to a really bad design choice and causes issues by doing so (weaving shoha between the two). Just give a two or three gcd window to use tsubame and you've fixed sam in every way possible

[Ryaz]

I mean, it's not like a Sam has strictly nothing to worry about. We focus on Tsubame cooldown mainly, as well as keeping 100% uptime in order not to drift our rotation.

But I agree, this isn't the change we need on sam. Shoha feels clunky sometimes but that's not the skill itself, more like Tsubame that has to get used instantly or else it goes to waste. Since the 5.0 class changes preview were released peoples said that having Tsubame only usable on the next GCD following a Midare was a terrible idea due to how it forces you into a clunky rotation (erasing a yukikaze sen just to line up every time) since we can't have enough or too few SkS to align correctly.

Everything else on sam is fine and can be adjusted. Tsubame however forces player to adapt to a really bad design choice and causes issues by doing so (weaving shoha between the two). Just give a two or three gcd window to use tsubame and you've fixed sam in every way possible

It's a combination of instant use Tsubame and change to Hagakure that have caused most of Samurai issues, honestly. I'm not sure why Yoshi thought that Sam was too complicated to play before when removing Hagakure is what lead to the really strict rotations we have now with fillers and the like. Sam was actually easier when you could adapt. Lol.

[Eliadil]

It's a combination of instant use Tsubame and change to Hagakure that have caused most of Samurai issues, honestly. I'm not sure why Yoshi thought that Sam was too complicated to play before when removing Hagakure is what lead to the really strict rotations we have now with fillers and the like. Sam was actually easier when you could adapt. Lol.

at least we got back Hagakure since 5.0 lol. Well... Kinda.

[xxvaynxx]

You are comparing Shoha stacks to general buffs which not what it is
More like Chakra or Mirage dive its no different
Other Melee have multiple Buffs and OGCD they have to keep track of while Samurai has hardly anything

Not gonna try and prove you wrong as its a waste.
Don't join in on a discussion on a job you have no knowledge about. Because if you did, you would know samurai has just as much to keep track of as the other melee's.