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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    The point was supposed to be to see a spectacle of the world. The reality was often having to stay there for multiple hours waiting for the exact time/weather requirement the game wanted. It wasn't just "very little" gameplay; if anything it was negative gameplay because it kept you from wanting to move from the spot or enter the DF to do anything else..
    You can see what weather is coming up well in advance you didn't have to stand around there for hours.
    And yes, when weather and time of day is involved with the sight it made it a much better spectacle. Now it seems to only be an afterthought, the vistas sometimes don't even let you see the sight you're supposed to be seeing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    And yes, when weather and time of day is involved with the sight it made it a much better spectacle.
    Sometimes that true. Others... not so much. How exactly is the inside of the leatherworkers guild any different looking at 4pm on a cloudy day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    Sometimes that true. Others... not so much. How exactly is the inside of the leatherworkers guild any different looking at 4pm on a cloudy day?
    Yeah that one I could see not needing a weather requirement. I was pretty baffled, but it also becomes very easy during xmas time when the snow in the cities happen since that works.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Skywatcher NPCs only see up to 24 game hours ahead and (more importantly) aren't accessible when you're currently standing at a difficult-to-reach vista, unless you get someone else to repeatedly check them for you.

    I've had instances where I saw the appropriate weather coming up on the skywatcher and rushed to try to get to the vista, but wasn't able to actually reach it before the weather had ended. Hurray for tons of wasted time.

    Total garbage system, won't be missed.
    I'm sorry you don't like a modicum of challenge in your game, I guess it really isn't for all. But there are tools the community has prepared to help you.
    For weather,
    https://skywatcher.plus/
    https://super-aardvark.github.io/weather/

    For the Sightseeing Log specifically,
    https://tylian.net/sslog/
    https://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SightseeingLog

    The ARR ones were great and it is currently missed.

    To not utilize such options would be like asking someone who's having trouble with big fish to not have https://ff14fish.carbuncleplushy.com/ on hand.
    (It's also a segue into getting back on topic.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I'm sorry you don't like a modicum of challenge in your game, I guess it really isn't for all. But there are tools the community has prepared to help you.
    For weather,
    https://skywatcher.plus/
    https://super-aardvark.github.io/weather/

    For the Sightseeing Log specifically,
    https://tylian.net/sslog/
    https://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SightseeingLog

    The ARR ones were great and it is currently missed.

    To not utilize such options would be like asking someone who's having trouble with big fish to not have https://ff14fish.carbuncleplushy.com/ on hand.
    (It's also a segue into getting back on topic.)
    On the subject of the Sightseeing Log:
    On one hand, I'd agree. Having to put some effort into it, along with rewarding more than just a title, increased my interest in completing the ARR ones. On the other hand, log entries like #009, #039, or #048 were very frustrating to get.

    To get back on topic of big fishing:
    While it's definitely frustrating to have a big fish getting away a few times (or sometimes way more than a few times), I don't think that should see any change. Fishing has always been more of a side content thing, just for players to do who enjoy it (or who hate themselves, but really want to complete that log anyway!)

    However, I do think they should at least increase the minimum possible time window to 3-4 Eorzean hours. These fishing windows that are only 1-2 Eorzean hours long are just cruel, especially if it's combined with a slippery big fish (I'm looking at you, The Assassin).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    However, I do think they should at least increase the minimum possible time window to 3-4 Eorzean hours. These fishing windows that are only 1-2 Eorzean hours long are just cruel, especially if it's combined with a slippery big fish (I'm looking at you, The Assassin).
    Definitely agree on this. Personally I find super short windows more annoying than low catch rates. It's incredibly annoying when you have to schedule an entire play session around 6 minutes of fishing. IMO no window should be less than 4-5 game hours (12-15ish minutes) long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    Definitely agree on this. Personally I find super short windows more annoying than low catch rates. It's incredibly annoying when you have to schedule an entire play session around 6 minutes of fishing. IMO no window should be less than 4-5 game hours (12-15ish minutes) long.
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