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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    what makes you think this game is too easy?
    Compare literally any jobs rotation to Feral Druid in WoW.

    Compare gearing up a job to Agent in Anarchy Online.

    Compare any dungeon to any found in games like Rift, ESO or Tera.

    Then tell me that FFXIV is hard. A game where trash mobs come down to "Pull as many packs as the hallway will allow because they have to physically block people otherwise they'll pull from boss to boss". Where healing and tanking is a game of "Simon Says" with the boss. Where 99% of all attacks from enemies use bright yellow telegraphs (In addition to having big flashing neon signs telling you when an attack needs you to stack on the target to share the damage)

    The only difficulty in FFXIV is when you have to group with other players, that are so used to how mindnumbingly easy the game is that their brain as seemingly melted out of their ears so they play awfully even in high level content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Compare literally any jobs rotation to Feral Druid in WoW.

    Compare gearing up a job to Agent in Anarchy Online.

    Compare any dungeon to any found in games like Rift, ESO or Tera.

    Then tell me that FFXIV is hard. A game where trash mobs come down to "Pull as many packs as the hallway will allow because they have to physically block people otherwise they'll pull from boss to boss". Where healing and tanking is a game of "Simon Says" with the boss. Where 99% of all attacks from enemies use bright yellow telegraphs (In addition to having big flashing neon signs telling you when an attack needs you to stack on the target to share the damage)

    The only difficulty in FFXIV is when you have to group with other players, that are so used to how mindnumbingly easy the game is that their brain as seemingly melted out of their ears so they play awfully even in high level content.
    I guess if you don't do any of the difficult content in xiv it's going to be pretty easy, yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I guess if you don't do any of the difficult content in xiv it's going to be pretty easy, yeah.
    honestly yeah hard to take the opinion of someone with no recorded history in high-end content too seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Compare gearing up a job to Agent in Anarchy Online.
    OMFG I love you! That game was literally my obsession for 10 years, but had to move on a little while after it went into Super-Ultra-Mega Maintenance Mode. Best MMO times ever, miss it and the friends I made there back in the day so much (unfortunately we all wanted to play different games when we left AO and we lost touch).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Compare gearing up a job to Agent in Anarchy Online.
    Or gearing up any class in Anarchy Online for that matter.. or determining how to specialize in FFXIV (materia..?) versus how it is in AO. FFXIV is infinitely more simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Compare literally any jobs rotation to Feral Druid in WoW.
    Pffft. Maybe feral Druid was easier in legion (I didn’t play BFA), but I found its rotation easier than SMN (at least in HW, or ShB, have not played it in stormblood yet)

    I can simplify classes too! Feral is just “line up yer dots with your buffs, and try not to let them fall off” (wow, just like most FF jobs!) and if you don’t need to use combo points for a dot, use it on ferocious bite, gg.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 03-06-2020 at 02:06 AM.
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    It's the Asstral Calamity, wrought by the dread primal Bahabutt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Compare literally any jobs rotation to Feral Druid in WoW.
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    Arcane mage, Fire mage, elemental shaman, destroy warlock, shadow priest, arm war.

    You press 2-3 buttons for the entire game, gg so much complex rotation and engaging. Complex rotation is super rare in WoW and its mainly done by a mistake by the blizzard who is dumbing down their game to the extreme levels.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I was half afk tanking a boss last night, ate every single mechanic and did not use any cds, completely fine. Trash mobs, I actually pulled gigantic, as big as I could, the white mage was wasting cds and we still could pull it off. In general (and I'm talking about regular content) This game starts feeling "difficult" when you have subpar players, and a large proportion of the playerbase are not very good. It's more of fighting against the playerbase than the actual content itself.


    I dont want to be in the skin of your healer.
    You could half afk in any other game making it easy, but that only means you make it harder on everyone around you. Optimising your gameplay to the highest possible levels, increasing speed and decreasing the time spend in the dungeons/raids is what considered hard thing. Base game mechanics is simple for all the game out there, this does not mean anything.
    On a healer i could spam cure I-II for the entire dungeon in FFXIV, but does that mean i am a good healer?
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 03-06-2020 at 10:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Arcane mage, Fire mage, elemental shaman, destroy warlock, shadow priest, arm war.

    You press 2-3 buttons for the entire game, gg so much complex and engaging.
    I don't have a lot of expereince playing WoW and deffo didn't play every class, but from what I played I did feel like many dps specs were easier or at least less complex than most FFXIV jobs.

    From what I remember though the Monk Brewmaster tanking spec was harder than any kind of tanking I did in FFXIV ever (having all tank jobs at least lvl 70), although it might have had to do with inconvenient UI for me, had to look all the way top right all the time to see if my buff was up and didn't bother getting mods to change that. Don't remember well but you had to basically constantly keep a very short buff up that shields you, and without it you'd take damage like paper, at least at lower levels. Thus had to keep level of concentration or else I would quite easily die as tank, you won't find that kind of challenge and stakes in any of FFXIV's tanking jobs.
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    Last edited by SamRF; 03-06-2020 at 10:46 AM. Reason: UI

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    I don't have a lot of expereince playing WoW and deffo didn't play every class, but from what I played I did feel like many dps specs were easier or at least less complex than most FFXIV jobs.

    From what I remember though the Monk Brewmaster tanking spec was harder than any kind of tanking I did in FFXIV ever (having all tank jobs at least lvl 70), although it might have had to do with inconvenient AI for me, had to look all the way top right all the time to see if my buff was up and didn't bother getting mods to change that. Don't remember well but you had to basically constantly keep a very short buff up that shields you, and without it you'd take damage like paper, at least at lower levels. Thus had to keep level of concentration or else I would quite easily die as tank, you won't find that kind of challenge and stakes in any of FFXIV's tanking jobs.
    hats why brewmaster was my class of choice in WoW because i found him the most fun, but i cant say it about other tanks in wow which are more braindead than warrior in ffxiv. Imagine warrior, but combine all his combos into 1 button, thats DH vengence for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    God forbid a healer actually has to heal from time to time. My bad. Sorry, I forgot that healers are actually dps in disguise. I am also sorry, but when something in real life calls, and I gotta drop what I am doing, I am not going to tell the man at the door "Sorry, I'm tanking this inconsequential boss give me 5 minutes!".

    Would spamming cure make you a good healer? I don't know, I don't main a healer or anything. Who could say?
    I had an entire team of headless chickens in ESO as a healer, they ran into everything, the dungeon took 1 hour because they were just facerolling the keyboard guess what.
    I was able to keep them at 90%+ HP all the time using 1-2 buttons, does it mean 4 year old kids could play the game and be end game pros?
    I will tell you more, i was able to heal entire party in raid as a lonely healer in veteran rank raid in ESO, and used only 4 buttons because the healing in this game is/was so OP, no one never died or had hp below 50%.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 03-06-2020 at 10:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    I had an entire team of headless chickens in ESO as a healer, they ran into everything, the dungeon took 1 hour because they were just facerolling the keyboard guess what.
    I was able to keep them at 90%+ HP all the time using 1-2 buttons, does it mean 4 year old kids could play the game and be end game pros?
    I will tell you more, i was able to heal entire party in raid as a lonely healer in veteran rank raid in ESO, and used only 4 buttons because the healing in this game is/was so OP.
    Well, I am sorry that we all aren't as good as you! Even so, a player as bad as me still thinks this game is easy!

    ESO? I didn't know people actually played that game seriously! Only PvP is half decent in that cash sho.. game.
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