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  1. #11
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    Miner Lv 90
    I like the ease of this game, it's fun, relaxing, looks amazing, has good gameplay and I can enjoy it with others without being stressed out.

    I like to improve and get better and know what certain moves do etc but I don't enjoy super hard content, on this game or any other game.
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    Nicodemus Mercy
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    What I want to know is what's wrong with something being easy? I want to be entertained, not walk uphill through a blizzard. I enjoy FFXIV for what it is... and while much of it might be classified as "easy" by most, there's still parts of it that are difficult. I've never done any of the Ultimates for example, and while I think I could successfully clear them if I really applied myself to the task, it's just more effort than I feel like investing. I applaud those that do clear them though. Another thing to keep in mind is that everyone is different and difficulty is relative. I'm older and have health issues. What's easy for someone else could very well be quite difficult to me.
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    How many men am I involved with? Well that depends... do you mean men as in males? Or just midlanders?

  3. #13
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    All these tough guy responses are so giggle worthy. Thanks. I guarantee you all the tough guys die quite often and then talk about how easy the game is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    All these tough guy responses are so giggle worthy. Thanks. I guarantee you all the tough guys die quite often and then talk about how easy the game is.
    I die all the time. The game is still easy
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 03-05-2020 at 10:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorTheed View Post
    I like the ease of this game, it's fun, relaxing, looks amazing, has good gameplay and I can enjoy it with others without being stressed out.

    I like to improve and get better and know what certain moves do etc but I don't enjoy super hard content, on this game or any other game.
    Some people come in thinking XIV is a dudebro kill cam game apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Player Reap00's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I die all the time. The game is still easy
    If the game was so easy why are savage and ultimate clear rates so very low. If it was easy everyone should have a clear?
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  8. #17
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    Moh Mo
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    ffxiv just has something for everyone, and it is undoubly a hard game when you're doing the content that is meant to be hard.

    Also I lol'd at feral druid rotation being compared to any job in this game, are you serious? Apart from maybe 3 jobs, to do optimal DPS is a lot harder in XIV then it ever was in WoW.

    Also in wow everyone uses an addon to tell you how to breath that is updated before people even step foot into an instance, just wow.
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    Last edited by Unsung_Wanderer; 03-05-2020 at 11:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    If the game was so easy why are savage and ultimate clear rates so very low. If it was easy everyone should have a clear?
    Have you never considered that many people are simply not interested in endgame?
    FFXIV draws in completely different kinds of people than games like Rift or WoW.

    First off, it's part of the Final Fantasy series, mostly single player games with heavy focus on story, characters and world building. Many people play this game for the story alone and ignore the MMO aspect, they only use DF to get through the neccessary group content and that's it. The rest of their time they spent enjoying the story, crafting in peace or whatever. But they don't even take a second glance at endgame content.
    Secondly, it had set different priorities from the start. It was never endgame focused and at launch there wasn't even PvP. It's not designed for highly competetive players. As such it naturally draws in players who generally enjoy casual fun and prefer to play alone without worrying about group coordination or improving.

    Savage clear rates don't really reflect the difficulty, they mostly reflect the interest of the player base.
    And if clear rates are below 1% that only means that a very small part of the playerbase is interested in endgame content in the first place. People who are interested in it don't even need a static to clear in a timely manner. Pugging it works just fine. Sometimes even better than statics. Many of my friends actually clear much faster via PF pugs than I do with my static, most of them progging E8 now.
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    Player Reap00's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    Have you never considered that many people are simply not interested in endgame?
    FFXIV draws in completely different kinds of people than games like Rift or WoW.

    First off, it's part of the Final Fantasy series, mostly single player games with heavy focus on story, characters and world building. Many people play this game for the story alone and ignore the MMO aspect, they only use DF to get through the neccessary group content and that's it. The rest of their time they spent enjoying the story, crafting in peace or whatever. But they don't even take a second glance at endgame content.
    Secondly, it had set different priorities from the start. It was never endgame focused and at launch there wasn't even PvP. It's not designed for highly competetive players. As such it naturally draws in players who generally enjoy casual fun and prefer to play alone without worrying about group coordination or improving.

    Savage clear rates don't really reflect the difficulty, they mostly reflect the interest of the player base.
    And if clear rates are below 1% that only means that a very small part of the playerbase is interested in endgame content in the first place. People who are interested in it don't even need a static to clear in a timely manner. Pugging it works just fine. Sometimes even better than statics. Many of my friends actually clear much faster via PF pugs than I do with my static, most of them progging E8 now.
    Nahh I disagree. If savage and ultimate were easy you would see a lot more people in there tackling the challenge. People realize its to hard for them so they won't touch it with a 10 ft pole.
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  11. #20
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    Coeurl
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    I would say there's a pretty decent variety of challenge in the game. The main through line of the game is tuned to be fairly easy but there's plenty of difficult side content and challenge based content for those who want it, it's just that it's not required. I also don't really feel like there's enough of an onramp for story focused players to get into the more difficult content if they choose to do so without relying on outside sources and leaning on other players to help. Of course, what all of that means is just that if you're the sort of player that needs hardcore content to satisfy you, and you feel that the game should demand more of the player, you're probably not going to find it in 14 and, honestly, should find another game to play more suited to your interests.
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