SE thanks for making this event not gender locked

[Penthea]

1 year ago we got a flower crown for this event. It's the same for both genders, dudes get some extra blue flowers that wont dye and more of their base flowers dye. This is apparently "essentially gender-locked" to this person.

Well it is...male and female characters got different rewards. That's literally the definition of gender locking.

I like how you say it's the same flower crown for both genders and then proceed to point out how the male version is different.

[reivaxe]

Well it is...male and female characters got different rewards. That's literally the definition of gender locking.

I like how you say it's the same flower crown for both genders and then proceed to point out how the male version is different.

No, they didn't get "different rewards". They both get a flower crown. It looks slightly different on men, but it's the same thing, a flower crown.
Much like how with this event the under shirts are different though everything about the concept is the same. Or like how the Dalmascan Draped Top looks different on men and women. It's cause the devs actually think about making changes to a design that suit an aesthetic.

You're in a thread praising the devs for not gender locking this item ... that looks different on both genders

Again I quote myself.

(Unless you think I can't count that dudes get 3 flowers compared to the female 5 ... or tell that these flowers are fairly different flowers ...).

So this is gender locked to you?

[Reinha]

(Unless you think I can't count that dudes get 3 flowers compared to the female 5 ... or tell that these flowers are fairly different flowers ...).

Well this event did it right because players like the female version, duh. Same with Moonfire Happis and Songbird Attire. It's never been about gender locking, just envy.

[reivaxe]

To a degree, yes.

No, it's literally just making design changes to make something look more appealing/ nature for a gender.
Like how they recently talked about how they make changes to helms to make them more suited for which ever race you're playing (They used the Edencall Helm of Fending as a example, showing just how much it changes if you're playing a human vs a lala/ elezen or kitty)

The devs actually take gender aesthetics into consideration when making things work for them.

(I haven't seen the male version of it yet, besides what could be seen on the icon picture, but the flowers didn't look that different.)

Dudes get completely different flowers and 2 whole less flowers. The dude flowers have narrow petals that show off more of the hair behind the flowers as well as the branch like pin part.
And ya know what? It looks better on them than the default version would without any changes ... which is why they do this kinda stuff.

Well this event did it right because players like the female version, duh. Same with Moonfire Happis and Songbird Attire. It's never been about gender locking, just envy.

Pretty much what I've been trying to get at. Like the flower crown ...
"Dudes get some extra prema blue flowers on their flower crown and are able to change the color of the pink flowers unlike the female version to make it look more traditionally male looking? WHHHHY?!?!".
Yet having almost the same thing happen here but liking the female version means it is alllll gooooood lol, these forums are a trip.

[PyurBlue]

And ya know what? It looks better on them than the default version would without any changes ... which is why they do this kinda stuff.

What looks better or not is personal preference, so there is no reason for them to do this kind of stuff at all, at least when it comes to aesthetics.

[reivaxe]

What looks better or not is personal preference, so there is no reason for them to do this kind of stuff at all, at least when it comes to aesthetics.

There are design principals that are not ruled by personal preference. Personal Pref refers to what YOU like on a personal level, doesn't mean things can't properly play towards an aesthetic to make a more pleasing visual.

They make changes to things to match the aesthetics of the model/ race/ gender the item is showing on.

If you don't think this flower pin plays better with the male aesthetic than this flower then that's your opinion and IDK how to help you. The Devs who know design clearly thought it works better that way and I see their logic and agree with their call.

The reason they "do this kinda stuff" is so that people who play males can have things that look good on them, flow well with their design and look like what a guy would wear even if it's traditionally seen as female focused. So that they can put on an item and feel good about how it looks on their character. So yeah, making the changes they did made it look like something a dude might wear as opposed to something designed just for girls or women that HAPPENS to be slapped on a dude.

[PyurBlue]

If you don't think this flower pin plays better with the male aesthetic than this flower then that's your opinion and IDK how to help you. The Devs who know design clearly thought it works better that way and I see their logic and agree with their call.

No one needs help with their opinions. The female version does look better on males and vice versa if that is what someone thinks.

The reason they "do this kinda stuff" is so that people who play males can have things that look good on them, flow well with their design and look like what a guy would wear even if it's traditionally seen as female focused.

If each flower piece was its own glam and a player could choose which to use, none of this would be lost. Flow has nothing to do with locking glams. It's either about purposely restricting choice or lessening the work that the devs have to do. It's their game so either is fair, but there is no benefit to locking glams.

[Penthea]

If you don't think this flower pin plays better with the male aesthetic than this flower then that's your opinion and IDK how to help you. The Devs who know design clearly thought it works better that way and I see their logic and agree with their call.

The reason they "do this kinda stuff" is so that people who play males can have things that look good on them, flow well with their design and look like what a guy would wear even if it's traditionally seen as female focused. So that they can put on an item and feel good about how it looks on their character. So yeah, making the changes they did made it look like something a dude might wear as opposed to something designed just for girls or women that HAPPENS to be slapped on a dude.

The problem with this is now that I have seen the male flower pin up close...I actually prefer it to the female version. But I can't access it unless I fantasia. Yay.

I don't like that the devs keep deciding what men and women should be wearing. Just let everyone wear what they want regardless of gender. Let everyone have the same choices in outfits no matter what their character is.

[Avidria]

If the flowers are different, then it sounds like it kind of is gender "locked." And again I like the guys' version better.

Oh well again I guess lmfao