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  1. #1
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    Oh they've always done this. So this dumb idea was in place from the beginning? Good to know.
    There is nothing dumb about it. Otherwise it would have been changed years ago.
    Have Patience, everyone is going through the same progression grind.
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    Blue Bird
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    There is nothing dumb about it. Otherwise it would have been changed years ago.
    Have Patience, everyone is going through the same progression grind.
    The irony of this message. "Everyone is going through the same progression grind." LMAO, BECAUSE THERE IS A PROGRESSION GRIND!

    You guys can sugarcoat it all you want, but here is the truth - the REAL truth:

    This is purely due to Square-Enix's greed. Things are like this because it means they make more money.

    If hardcore players could just come on when a new patch hit and get all the latest gear in less than a month, SE would only get a month's worth of subscription from them. Meanwhile, if they're forced to draaag out their item-acquisition period over a couple of months, they're able to force such players to stay subscribed for longer.

    That's it. There is no other reason why end-game gear needs to be gated. You can try coming up with whatever other bogus explanations you can think of, but at the end of the day it still all comes down to this. It doesn't matter if a few players are suddenly able to become ilvl 500 after the first week after grinding - it wouldn't have any influence on the game server, or the other players. Casual players would still be able to get things at their own pace. Everything would be fine. The ONLY thing that would change? Square-Enix wouldn't get as much sub money from the hardcore players. Boohoo, so sad. :'(

    And so, because of this, we have weekly tome caps and 2 chests per week, per raid instance... which leads to the shitty gameplay currently in place where people only log in Tuesday morning on the reset to do the raids, grind a few dungeons to meet the weekly cap, and then log off for the rest of the week until the next reset.
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    Granyala's Avatar
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluexBird View Post
    [lots of whine about bad money grabbing companies.
    Be happy us non-raiding scrubs get gear of this caliber at all.
    In most MMOs I know it's "either raid or be doomed to wear crappy stuff".

    Having to wait it out a little is a fair trade off. If you want to gear more quickly: raid savage.

    As for the weekly lockout: it's there so people with a life have a chance to compete too.
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    Last edited by Granyala; 03-02-2020 at 02:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenKitsune View Post
    I hope you're joking, i really do.

    Hardcore raiders CAN get almost full ilvl 500, in the first week if needed, and one month in atleast one of the dps from any hardcore group WILL be full ilvl 500.

    And no...It's not for money. If the game allowed you to get ilvl 500 week 1 without effort due to a lack of a tomestone cap or whatever...Then everyone would just play on patch week, get full ilvl 500, and then not play for 3 months, by your logic. Which do you prefer? Playing a little every week, and actually PLAYING the game? Or playing like a maniac week 1, then never launching the game again for the following 3 months before the next patch. Do you play soley to get gear? Do you unsub for 1-2 months once you're at ilvl cap and say "welp, that's me 100%ing the game! Surely i can't get any more social interaction or enjoyment from this more than i already do through all those expert roulettes i did!"
    Nobody is forcing you to play the game - If that's how you really feel, then why are you paying the sub? Why are you playing?
    There's so much wrong with what you wrote, that rather than proving you wrong I'm just going to stick to answering your last questions.

    No, I don't want to play like a maniac on week 1. At least not because of gear. What I find annoying is that I want to play the game... except I can't, because people won't want me in their party because they won't get any or as many rewards. THIS is what I'm against. It's exactly BECAUSE I don't play just for the gear, that I hate the system currently in place. When I brought up the hardcore players, I wasn't talking about myself. And for the record, I don't unsub or quit after I'm fully geared. It's like you completely missed the point of my post.
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    Razard Baleth
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluexBird View Post
    This is purely due to Square-Enix's greed. Things are like this because it means they make.
    I do declare Mr.Bird. This line of thinking is giving me the Vapours! Please take me to mah fainting couch just to be sure.

    A company wanting to make money. The scandal of it all.










    /rolleyes
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluexBird View Post
    If hardcore players could just come on when a new patch hit and get all the latest gear in less than a month, SE would only get a month's worth of subscription from them
    This already happens. You have people who can finish gearing up within a week or two even.
    The gating is more for the general populous who don't raid and have to wait on tomestones and other item drops.
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