Holy now a bannable spell.

[Jamein]

If we are banning for spamming Holy I would also like to Ban all of those bards in Limsa spamming their songs.
Also the people spamming Emotes during their ERP sessions.
I mean I know I could turn all that off in chat but apparently thats not a valid excuse so ban them.
I'd like to point out so many white knights sit around saying people should be able to play thier own way when it comes to people doing ridiculous rotations in dungeons, but when its something that annoys them, BAN PLZ.

So if we are now banning people for things that annoy you but that you could actively and easily avoid then my list is as follows:

Bards playing Song macros for hours at a time.
Emote spam in Limsa.
Changing Glamours/classes the sound being spammed annoys me too.
Doing 20 DPS.

See, it all sounds stupid, just like banning someone for holy spamming is.

Also, calling this harassment is pathetic.

[Canada_bangs]

If we are banning for spamming Holy I would also like to Ban all of those bards in Limsa spamming their songs.
Also the people spamming Emotes during their ERP sessions.
I mean I know I could turn all that off in chat but apparently thats not a valid excuse so ban them.
I'd like to point out so many white knights sit around saying people should be able to play thier own way when it comes to people doing ridiculous rotations in dungeons, but when its something that annoys them, BAN PLZ.

So if we are now banning people for things that annoy you but that you could actively and easily avoid then my list is as follows:

Bards playing Song macros for hours at a time.
Emote spam in Limsa.
Changing Glamours/classes the sound being spammed annoys me too.
Doing 20 DPS.

See, it all sounds stupid, just like banning someone for holy spamming is.

Also, calling this harassment is pathetic.

Why do people go to the most insane extreme in these kinds of debates? He clearly was spamming holy in the city, and was asked to stop by a few people. Why are we defending holy spam in a city? Would you go to your local mall and spam screaming? It's not hurting anyone right? so you can do it right? I mean you CAN, but you WILL be asked to stop and if you don't you WILL be going on a date with some form of a cop. It's the same with spamming. Most people don't report holy spam and thats fair, but also most people don't spam holy for that long either. If you're going around spamming it to someone who clearly doesn't want you to spam it in their face and you keep doing it? Guess what.. That is harassment.

[Jamein]

Why do people go to the most insane extreme in these kinds of debates? He clearly was spamming holy in the city, and was asked to stop by a few people. Why are we defending holy spam in a city? Would you go to your local mall and spam screaming? It's not hurting anyone right? so you can do it right? I mean you CAN, but you WILL be asked to stop and if you don't you WILL be going on a date with some form of a cop. It's the same with spamming. Most people don't report holy spam and thats fair, but also most people don't spam holy for that long either. If you're going around spamming it to someone who clearly doesn't want you to spam it in their face and you keep doing it? Guess what.. That is harassment.

None of those were extreme sure the emote and class change was exaggerating, the DPS and bard song spam wasn't though, they are things that annoy me, just like the holy spam annoyed people.

However the reason why i went that far was because its an utterly ridiculous reason to ban, was he annoying? Sure probably was, at the same time so are plenty of things in this game but we don't expect them to dish out bans for it.

Harassment
Aggresive pressure or intimidation.

No its not 'harassment' its annoying, lets not take things to the extreme as you so delicately put we aren't 3 years old and hopefully people have skin thicker than tissue paper. He isn't causing physical harm or is a threat or causing emotional distress, its literally just an annoyance and one that is easily fixed by in-game means. A fly buzzing around your head is an annoyance, it isn't harrassing you.

I am not denying that the guy probably is a pain, i am just saying that if we are banning for things that are annoying I have a whole list of things if we are going down that route.