Healing is now a state of permanent hatred.

[Kalise]

To be honest, the only time I get annoyed/angry as a Healer, is when the tank is utter garbage.

Due to being a Tank main with many years of playing Tank, it really annoys me to no end when I see Tanks being played wrong (Mistakes are fine, to err is to be human. But playing them straight up wrong hurts my soul...)

Though, ShB healing is so dull... It is honestly difficult to actually level my healers because of just how attrocious the gameplay is...

Dungeons are: Regen/Aspected Benefic > Holy/Gravity/Art of War times infinity.
Bosses are: Bio/Dia/Combust > Broil/Glare/Malefic times infinity.

Occasionally, press an oGCD heal for the Tankbuster/Raidbuster. But otherwise, mash 1 button hundreds of times...

It's even worse in a Trust, where Thancred is so OP that he doesn't need heals because his Brutal Shell heals him like 50% of his max health and gives him an equivalent shield and you're there doing pitiful DPS while both Trust DPS are using single target attacks through all the trash (When they're not standing around with a thumb up their rear end because a mob used an AoE)...

Like I though Tanking in Trusts was bad, but at least you have to dodge AoEs and can use CD's to mitigate damage. As well as having a rotation that isn't just a single button (Though, I admit, the 2 button AoE "Rotations" are not far off...)

[Thoosa]

Healing is it’s toughest in savage - not only do you have to know the mechanics and do them, you have to do that while healing and prepare yourself for sections of high incoming damage. I get more angry with myself for messing up mechanics and dying, because then there’s a high chance of a wipe or it’s difficult to get back on track due to lack of mp after a raise, plus that strains your co healer and can ruin a run entirely.

[Brandedblade]

The idea that one person doesn't like something doesn't mean that everyone else doesn't like that something is easily reversed: just because someone likes something doesn't meant that everyone else likes it.
If you like it, great.
If you don't, that's not so great, but the point of view is just as valid. I would assume that a game developer would actually want people to play their game, so feedback as to why someone doesn't like a part of the game is just as important (maybe more so) as receiving feedback as to why someone likes a part of the game.

It might be too emotional for your tastes, but if someone is expressing this much distaste for a game, it would be in the developer's best interests to hear more about it and figure out if there's something to improve over it. So this is, very much, valid feedback.

And I fundamentally disagree with that. Making yourself look like a miserable person who wants to actively be detrimental and toxic to other players is not the same thing as having grievance and feedback over a game you want to see improve. All it makes you look like is that you need to take a break and find something you actually enjoy.

[GrimGale]

And I fundamentally disagree with that. Making yourself look like a miserable person who wants to actively be detrimental and toxic to other players is not the same thing as having grievance and feedback over a game you want to see improve. All it makes you look like is that you need to take a break and find something you actually enjoy.

Fair enough, but in all honesty I do have feedback posts that adress the issues regarding healing gameplay. This, on the other hand is indeed a "whiny" thread though I did ask for other player feedback regarding the same issues even if the title of the thread is purposely inflamatory.

As for the players that find healing fun in its current state, good for them. But unvoiced opinons don't really matter, unfortunately since you can't really know what silent people think, you can only assume.

[Saefinn]

Fair enough, but in all honesty I do have feedback posts that adress the issues regarding healing gameplay. This, on the other hand is indeed a "whiny" thread though I did ask for other player feedback regarding the same issues even if the title of the thread is purposely inflamatory.

As for the players that find healing fun in its current state, good for them. But unvoiced opinons don't really matter, unfortunately since you can't really know what silent people think, you can only assume.

This is kinda why I'm more in favour of surveys or more targeted types of feedback rather than just looking at what people complain about. To me, complaints are a sign that something should be looked into and get a feel for why they're complaining. But should not be the core of the feedback itself.

The satisfied tend to stay silent. The mildly perturbed still remain silent. When I was loving SCH in 2.0 and 3.0 I wasn't coming here saying how great it is and what I loved about it. When I was "meh" about it in SB and took reconciliation that it still had a DPS rotation that the complaint didn't feel big enough that I still didn't come here and I was still able to enjoy my job.

In all that time, they've had the feedback of people who were not happy and if its them they listened to then it's their feedback that's screwed with a job I loved playing and my primary role in playing these games. But this is why I'd rather as a community providing all this feedback, instead of falling about on "but I want it that a way" push for compromised feedback that the devs can work with.

[Kalise]

And I fundamentally disagree with that. Making yourself look like a miserable person who wants to actively be detrimental and toxic to other players is not the same thing as having grievance and feedback over a game you want to see improve. All it makes you look like is that you need to take a break and find something you actually enjoy.

On the other hand, having an emotional response shows you have passion for the product. Meaning you're the kind of person who WANTS to stick around and continue to play the game.

While, being actively toxic might not be the best way to convey your feelings, it's at least more informative than just silently leaving with nary a word about why you did.

This is kinda why I'm more in favour of surveys or more targeted types of feedback rather than just looking at what people complain about.

Honestly, yeah. SE is missing out on a ton of potential feedback about the game and the systems through such simple things.

When releasing new experimental content (Or looking at old, dead content *cough*FATES*cough*), provide an optional survey for players who participate to fill out. So you can find out what people liked and what they didn't.

In addition, having beta tests available for content they're working on where people can submit feedback prior to its full release (Though, I get that this would require more server space and thus comes back to the fact that Papa SE won't give FFXIV the funding it deserves...)

Of course, one of the prohibitive aspects of this, is translation... Given that everything would need to be translated to Japanese and then be sifted through to consolidate the views down (So Yoshida doesn't have to read the same thing a thousand times)...

[GrimGale]

This is kinda why I'm more in favour of surveys or more targeted types of feedback rather than just looking at what people complain about. To me, complaints are a sign that something should be looked into and get a feel for why they're complaining. But should not be the core of the feedback itself.

The satisfied tend to stay silent. The mildly perturbed still remain silent. When I was loving SCH in 2.0 and 3.0 I wasn't coming here saying how great it is and what I loved about it. When I was "meh" about it in SB and took reconciliation that it still had a DPS rotation that the complaint didn't feel big enough that I still didn't come here and I was still able to enjoy my job.

In all that time, they've had the feedback of people who were not happy and if its them they listened to then it's their feedback that's screwed with a job I loved playing and my primary role in playing these games. But this is why I'd rather as a community providing all this feedback, instead of falling about on "but I want it that a way" push for compromised feedback that the devs can work with.

Same for me actually. I only started posting in Forums back when ShB was announced. And I have been playing since the beta.

[deadman1204]

What healing in MMO's really needs is a way for the other people to understand what the healer is doing. Its obvious what the tank does, but so many people don't even think about how the healer is holding their hands and enabling them the entire time.

[HappyHubris]

I only get angry if a tank is undergeared and then pulls half the dungeon. Mostly I'm just bored, as roulette healing is so damn tedious.

[HappyHubris]

To be honest, the only time I get annoyed/angry as a Healer, is when the tank is utter garbage.

Due to being a Tank main with many years of playing Tank, it really annoys me to no end when I see Tanks being played wrong (Mistakes are fine, to err is to be human. But playing them straight up wrong hurts my soul...)

Though, ShB healing is so dull... It is honestly difficult to actually level my healers because of just how attrocious the gameplay is...

Dungeons are: Regen/Aspected Benefic > Holy/Gravity/Art of War times infinity.
Bosses are: Bio/Dia/Combust > Broil/Glare/Malefic times infinity.

Occasionally, press an oGCD heal for the Tankbuster/Raidbuster. But otherwise, mash 1 button hundreds of times...

It's even worse in a Trust, where Thancred is so OP that he doesn't need heals because his Brutal Shell heals him like 50% of his max health and gives him an equivalent shield and you're there doing pitiful DPS while both Trust DPS are using single target attacks through all the trash (When they're not standing around with a thumb up their rear end because a mob used an AoE)...

Like I though Tanking in Trusts was bad, but at least you have to dodge AoEs and can use CD's to mitigate damage. As well as having a rotation that isn't just a single button (Though, I admit, the 2 button AoE "Rotations" are not far off...)

It's not a popular opinion, but I think FFXIV healing is designed to make people who enjoy healing switch to DPS.