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    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    Computers that never get more than 15 FPS are one thing, but I would like more MMOs to remember that some people simply prefer FPS to graphics quality.

    If I can't get 60 FPS in a game, I turn something graphical off. If I still don't reach 60 FPS, I keep turning stuff off until I do.

    And no, it isn't entirely a matter of the user's hardware being under the minimum specs because the minimum specs are designed with a certain level of predicted margin.

    If you have a bridge with a total, overall weight limit of 20 tons and 30 1-ton cars drive over it and cause it to break, then it might have been better to build a stronger bridge. I get high framerates in instances and massive lag spikes in populated cities like Limsa.
    The game is almost 7 years old now - If a PC can't run the game, it simply wasn't designed for it and either needs to be upgraded or replaced. Nothing has changed with how they render the graphics or how intense the graphics are, the game still uses the same engine and the same API as it has for almost 3 years. Your friend knew the system requirements for the game, its on any store page you buy it from, and every expansion has a free to download benchmarking tool that's released a month or more before the expansion is released. This is not the games fault, and thus not something they need to fix.

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Benchmarks are more of an indication of potential performance than an actual undisputed grade. The only true test is playing the actual game.
    Not really, Benchmarks are designed as a WORST CASE SCENARIO, they're designed to test and thus they stress the machine to the limit of its capabilities of running the software. That's why its called a "Benchmark" and not a "Software that will show you what you MIGHT get"
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    Quote Originally Posted by VenKitsune View Post
    Not really, Benchmarks are designed as a WORST CASE SCENARIO, they're designed to test and thus they stress the machine to the limit of its capabilities of running the software. That's why its called a "Benchmark" and not a "Software that will show you what you MIGHT get"
    Somehow accidentally deleted my post instead of editing it, derp.

    Benchmarks sometimes don't quite take heat into account because very often the duration of the benchmark itself is far shorter than a gaming session. So you might get an okay enough result for a benchmark, but in an actual gaming session you might find that the longer you play the worse your performance gets due to heat issues.

    Certainly the FFXIV benchmarks are far shorter than most people would play in a normal gaming session.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    If you have a bridge with a total, overall weight limit of 20 tons and 30 1-ton cars drive over it and cause it to break, then it might have been better to build a stronger bridge. I get high framerates in instances and massive lag spikes in populated cities like Limsa.
    This is a bad example as its easier to see the bridge as your PC and the cars as the game. The bridge is built to withstand only so much, like your PC and if driving too many cars, or in this case a 10 year old game, causes it to break, then the fault isn't the bridge, its the people trying to drive across a bridge they well know cant handle their weight. So "build a better PC" is the better answer to this.

    There are prebuilds with minimal costs that can play this game with ease. Asking a company to go backward because you refuse to go forward is ridiculous.
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    Ask you fruend did he consider switching to microwave, because that tiger electronic handheld simply is too old. Lol
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    Look I run a gaming laptop with an Intel i7 7700HQ, 16 gigs of Ram, and a GeForce 1060GTX.

    That's not some kind of obsolete system by any means... and the particle effects during Raids especially Alliance raids like Copied Factory can really slow it to a chug at times and its only during those types of situations so there is something to be said about turning down particle effects.
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    PS4 pro if computers are too much. I get 60 FPS everywhere on the standard settings. Now when I turn on pro mode it varies but still way above walmart laptop. - I have a walmart laptop and played it side by side- Lenveo one from last year.
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    So I'd like to see more options to turn off more particle effects not for performance reasons, but for personal ones. I have godawful eyesight, miserable depth perception, and a hard time tracking what the F is going on in fights where the room is bright, the attacks from my party AND the thing we're fighting are bright, and the HEY IDIOT DONT STAND HERE markers are all bright. Seriously, some fights in this game are an absolute nightmare of bright flashy flashiness, and the hardest part about clearing them is squinting through the flashy nonsense to see wtf is actually going on.

    Let me make it less... glowy. Pls.
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

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    And people said PS4 are holding the game back, heh. They like totally ignore low spec pc users and just blame it all on PS4.

    Back on topic, what is the spec for your laptop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrimKreyole View Post
    Yes, but it doesn't make sense that people who could play the game at minimum 30fps in the past no longer can get at least that.

    When updating an MMO it's important to keep it accessible, even if the requirements have changed.

    Also the laptop that they have can run the ShB benchmark and get a Standard rating on medium settings - they get workable FPS there, but certain raids prevent them from performing well.




    That means something is not going right in the game itself and perhaps being able to turn off the identified problems would help.

    My computer is personally fine, I could probably stand to upgrade my 1060 at some point but I'm not the one having issues here.
    Hold up you have a GTX 1060? How are you even getting 15 fps lmao. Even with low settings. There's definetly something wrong with the setup. Not the game tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueki_Kosuke View Post
    Hold up you have a GTX 1060? How are you even getting 15 fps lmao. Even with low settings. There's definetly something wrong with the setup. Not the game tho.
    I HIGHLY doubt he has a 1060 if he's getting that. My laptop has a 1060 and I got extremely high for the SHB benchmark with everything turned the highest possibly setting.
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