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    KrimKreyole's Avatar
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    Can we please have more options to lower graphics settings?

    This isn't an issue I face myself, but it seems a lot of the newer content has a lot more particle effects going on that , even with other player's animations turned off, makes it really difficult for people on less powerful PCs to play the game.

    My main tank is lucky to get 15FPS in some newer areas and doing the Alliance raid? Pretty much impossible.

    We need some options to turn off water effects, particle effects in the air/background (such as the third boss of Copied Factory, the Wreath of Snakes or Eden Verse 2) or at least lower them to the point they aren't affecting game performance for players. We also need to be able to turn off some boss/mob effects if possible so long as it doesn't affect the ability to discern their attacks.

    I know a few people who simply can't afford to get new PCs at the moment but the game updates are constantly making it harder for them to play because the graphics settings don't allow them to shut off a lot of these superfluous effects.

    Heck, in Eden Verse 2 the effects are so bright I am unable to see the safe spot in a couple of attacks due to glowing orange on a orange-brown floor and I'm not running the game on a toaster.
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    Tbh, if they cant get more than 15fps, they already don't meet minimum specs required to play the game.

    SE has a bare minimum for what it wants the game to look like, and function.

    My cpu is almost 7 years old at this point. Gpu is closing in on 5. I still get more than 60fps in nearly every area. These people are likely playing on laptops with integrated graphics, or ancient Dell optiplexes or something. Things that never met the minimum requirements but they decided to play anyway.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 02-21-2020 at 01:23 AM.

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    Hmmm how hot does your pc get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Tbh, if they cant get more than 15fps, they already don't meet minimum specs required to play the game.

    SE has a bare minimum for what it wants the game to look like, and function.
    Computers that never get more than 15 FPS are one thing, but I would like more MMOs to remember that some people simply prefer FPS to graphics quality.

    If I can't get 60 FPS in a game, I turn something graphical off. If I still don't reach 60 FPS, I keep turning stuff off until I do.

    And no, it isn't entirely a matter of the user's hardware being under the minimum specs because the minimum specs are designed with a certain level of predicted margin.

    If you have a bridge with a total, overall weight limit of 20 tons and 30 1-ton cars drive over it and cause it to break, then it might have been better to build a stronger bridge. I get high framerates in instances and massive lag spikes in populated cities like Limsa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    Computers that never get more than 15 FPS are one thing, but I would like more MMOs to remember that some people simply prefer FPS to graphics quality.

    If I can't get 60 FPS in a game, I turn something graphical off. If I still don't reach 60 FPS, I keep turning stuff off until I do.

    And no, it isn't entirely a matter of the user's hardware being under the minimum specs because the minimum specs are designed with a certain level of predicted margin.

    If you have a bridge with a total, overall weight limit of 20 tons and 30 1-ton cars drive over it and cause it to break, then it might have been better to build a stronger bridge. I get high framerates in instances and massive lag spikes in populated cities like Limsa.
    Yes, and they are talking about getting less than 15fps in instances.

    Also, would like to point out that no amount of turning things off is going to get a 15fps pc to 60 fps if they are already playing at mimimal graphic settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Yes, and they are talking about getting less than 15fps in instances.

    Also, would like to point out that no amount of turning things off is going to get a 15fps pc to 60 fps if they are already playing at mimimal graphic settings.
    Okay, so we're in agreement then.
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    Considering that SE have dropped ps3 support we can assume that players are expected to have a gaming rig that has a certain minimum requirement, which would be above what a ps3 can do.

    I'm not against giving players more options to reduce the graphical intensity of the game, but I think SE want to maintain a certain aesthetic and they have decided that anything below a certain requirement goes against that. There comes a point in which turning down the graphics enough can seriously change how a game looks.

    If you're getting below 15 fps in instances your gaming rig is in serious need of an upgrade. I understand that for some people this means spending money they do not have, but this is how it is with gaming. If you don't keep up with how technology moves on you're going to run into problems. Pc gaming is not a cheap hobby.
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    Yes, but it doesn't make sense that people who could play the game at minimum 30fps in the past no longer can get at least that.

    When updating an MMO it's important to keep it accessible, even if the requirements have changed.

    Also the laptop that they have can run the ShB benchmark and get a Standard rating on medium settings - they get workable FPS there, but certain raids prevent them from performing well.




    That means something is not going right in the game itself and perhaps being able to turn off the identified problems would help.

    My computer is personally fine, I could probably stand to upgrade my 1060 at some point but I'm not the one having issues here.
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    Well the Particle effects are a little overly crazy in raids, and I'm not sure which option can turn that down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrimKreyole View Post
    Yes, but it doesn't make sense that people who could play the game at minimum 30fps in the past no longer can get at least that.

    When updating an MMO it's important to keep it accessible, even if the requirements have changed.
    You've just answered yourself. The requirements have changed, so it does make sense that for some people their fps is lower than before.

    Quote Originally Posted by KrimKreyole View Post
    Also the laptop that they have can run the ShB benchmark and get a Standard rating on medium settings - they get workable FPS there, but certain raids prevent them from performing well.
    Benchmarks are more of an indication of potential performance than an actual undisputed grade. The only true test is playing the actual game.
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