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    MuseTraveller's Avatar
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    Mihn Saruihn
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    MSQ ok but... on his 'mysterious' plan...

    Didn't the flood happen because WoL did various heroic things, got certain crystals to manifest and that tipped the balance additionally to defeating the ascians in the first place?
    Won't having bunch of new WoL just do the same when the balance is still fairly fragile? Didn't we talk about that with the scions or I'm missing something? They should know this! To me this seemed like the obvious plan from Elidibus... or maybe it's something far more complicated... which is also possible.

    That's about the only thing that bothered me. :la
    There is also that idealistic fools are far easier to manipulate so I take he just needed new puppets?

    Venat's name was dropped just like Emet-selch's. I think that mysterious figure talking to Zenos is him. We saw he planned to become Hydaelyn's heart but we never saw or heard if he did. He could have failed or had other sinister plans? Or maybe he separated from her and that's why Minfilia had to step in?
    Questions, questions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuseTraveller View Post
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    Ten characters of spoilers.

    This bothered me as well. It's pretty obvious /why/ Elidibus might be doing this. To the point that even if he turns around and decides to reveal that no, he was planning 'x' all along instead, it's still amazing that the Scion's didn't put two and two together. Then again the Scion's have never been very quick on the uptake. I'm still scratching my head over how they failed to see the link between the Red Kyojin and Asahi back in Stormblood - though the obvious answer is that the plot demands that they be kept in the dark for the sake of a potential 'gotcha' moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
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    --10 chars.

    I'm still shocked they figured out Elidibus within a couple scenes. It was very obvious of course, but that's never stopped them being oblivious before.
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    Soren Thazriel
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    Zenos/Other Small Bit

    The white-robed figure in English sounds an awful lot like Asahi and what limited features we get to see of his chin/nose/mouth look similar to Asahi's as well. So if that is Asahi the question's whether it's actually him or someone using his body. Hard to really tell who it is exactly, but I have a hard time believing it's that Asahi somehow got revived and was suddenly learned everything in some way. It seems much more likely that this is someone who is using Asahi's body to get close to Zenos. Question, of course, is who.

    Since he did refer to himself as a dog without a master, and a hunting dog if Zenos wished it, plus immediately jumped to talking about Zodiark... For some reason I almost wonder if it could be something really crazy. Like a fractured Lahabrea who didn't technically die, but had his aether absorbed by Thordan's sword which might've been released after Thordan's death? He did mention it being secondhand knowledge though so who knows if that's actually true or a lie. I just don't see why they would bother going through all the effort to fully revive Asahi and dump a bunch of info into him instead of having his body possessed by someone who is essentially leading Zenos into reviving Zodiark at full power.

    Also that freaking Shoebill showed up once again if you went up into the little cliff-based cave while looking for the livers in the Tempest. Just. Staring. At Ryne. I guess I wouldn't put it past the writing team to reveal it as one big running gag that serves no other purpose but a fun easter egg, but that seems so unlikely at this point. Someone is watching us either through the guise of a Shoebill or through the Shoebill's eyes. It is always seen staring at us or one of our comrades, and it's been found in the flipping Tempest in the most unlikely places which has no explanation. Not to mention it drops from Amaurot. If there isn't some giant drop/reveal involving the Shoebill by the end of this, and it doesn't show up post-Norvrandt, I'll be disappoint. Even if it turns out it was just Elidibus observing things and figuring what pieces on the chess board need to be manipulated/dealt with.
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