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    About the MSQ

    I keep forgetting that when an Ascian possess a body they gain that person's memories. Since Elidibus was in Zenos' body for a while then he must know about the dreams he's been having. Not really sure if that will play a role in anything, but maybe its one of the reason why he told Zenos about everything and left. He knew who Zenos soul belong to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    About the MSQ

    I keep forgetting that when an Ascian possess a body they gain that person's memories. Since Elidibus was in Zenos' body for a while then he must know about the dreams he's been having. Not really sure if that will play a role in anything, but maybe its one of the reason why he told Zenos about everything and left. He knew who Zenos soul belong to?
    About that...

    Depending on how all these shenanigans play out, and whether Zodiark's "heart" was sundered, and thus the original Elidibus's soul was also fragmented in the process... I can think of an interesting possibility of whose it could be. If the Resonance disguises his original soul's identity by being superimposed over it, that could be why no one (else) has picked up on it. My guess is that Elidibus has assigned "Asahi" to guide Zenos so that the Source is primed for a Rejoining when it's ready to happen since I doubt he's genuinely going to leave all that to chance.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 02-24-2020 at 10:12 AM.
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Hmmm. What if

    If this White-Robe "Asahi" isn't actually on Elidibus' side and actually had an hand in Zenos' revival, Zenos pretty much wanted to die by killing himself in the first place, why would he get into so much trouble to die then go back reclaim his body?

    Elidibus was pretty surprised at seeing Zenos too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AkaeiNox View Post
    Hmmm. What if

    If this White-Robe "Asahi" isn't actually on Elidibus' side and actually had an hand in Zenos' revival, Zenos pretty much wanted to die by killing himself in the first place, why would he get into so much trouble to die then go back reclaim his body?

    Elidibus was pretty surprised at seeing Zenos too.
    Yep, I agree that that may be the case, too.

    ...especially with the recent name-drop that came in this patch. It's just hard to imagine that Elidibus would genuinely leave the situation on the Source to Zenos's whims, though, and this "Asahi" looks like someone he briefed for the job... but with that said, he could have other plans ready to unfold for that, and it may be some other hand guiding Zenos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    About the MSQ

    I keep forgetting that when an Ascian possess a body they gain that person's memories. Since Elidibus was in Zenos' body for a while then he must know about the dreams he's been having. Not really sure if that will play a role in anything, but maybe its one of the reason why he told Zenos about everything and left. He knew who Zenos soul belong to?
    Regarding that matter...

    I was under the impression that that only applied in the case of a still-living host like Thancred, considering that they've stated that memories are connected to an individual's soul rather then their body.

    The fact you can choose to bait Elidibus into exposing himself by asking him about Seto in the 5.2 MSQ (Whom he assumes to be deceased) as opposed to just making him decide to just give up with continued suspicion suggests he doesn't actually have any of Ardbert's memories and is going strictly off of what he knows about them from first and second-hand accounts at least.
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    Apparently some Vii are old enough to remember the Ronkan Empire when it was at its glory days. That's...rather impressive and tells you just how long they live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Qitari Beast Tribe
    Apparently some Vii are old enough to remember the Ronkan Empire when it was at its glory days. That's...rather impressive and tells you just how long they live.
    There has been some hints in other FF games involving Viera race that they can live over 1000 years and maybe beyond 2000 years but this discussion of how long a Viera lifespan has always been a bit of a mystery because of the "don't as a girl her age" meme.

    This will make the Veria race the longest living in any FF game despite their culture affecting their population to a smaller amount for culture expectations reasons.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 02-24-2020 at 11:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    There has been some hints in other FF games involving Viera race that they can live over 1000 years and maybe beyond 2000 years but this discussion of how long a Viera lifespan has always been a bit of a mystery because of the "don't as a girl her age" meme.

    This will make the Veria race the longest living in any FF game despite their culture affecting their population to a smaller amount for culture expectations reasons.
    The Wandering Dramaturge aboard the airship in Kugane says Viera can live "12-score (240) years or more".

    Regarding the beast tribe quest,
    I don't think the Viis woman said she was around for the Ronka glory days, just that she was around when the Qitari were still in the forest. And they only left the forest because of the Flood, so they were still around as recently as only 100 years ago.
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    So just for shiggles I spoke with Eidith at the Crystarium... they updated her dialogue and it's funny as hell. For those who are curious shes the np c to the left of the gem trader
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    One other thing about Eden

    Did Urianger say Gaia was originally from the Thirteenth? I know she said she was from Eulmore, but there seemed to be a connection to the Thirteenth.
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