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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I finished all the storylines today and haven't had a chance to read through all the posts here yet, but dumping my thoughts here now (because otherwise I'll probably repeat 5.1 and never get them posted at all). So apologies if I'm repeating things that people have just said.


    MSQ:


    The "everyone awakening to the Echo" things bugs me too - Elidibus says the starshower was an illusion, but was the voice as well? As others have asked, how are these guys all hearing from Hydaelyn when She hasn't been strong enough to speak to us for months?
    Well on that note and just a speculation

    We know that Hydaelyn sundered Zodiark, but was she herself sundered in the process? If she is not and/or became the will of the planet her "distress beacon"/or saying "Hear, Feel Think" is just something all can hear since she became the will in essence.

    Another thought is again, speculation. As we got closer to being close to our original self (as we besides the Ascians) have the most complete version it may be possible the less "in tune" we are with her - where others may see it as a distress beacon of the planet we call Hydaelyn.

    The distress signal may have been always there so that darkness could not be defeated so soundly and at least had a means to be held in check.



    Hmm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
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    Also, we find out that Livia was also someone he took in and trained to be a warrior. Yet it was clear they had a romantic relationship. I’m guessing he took her in as an adult? Hopefully...
    Did they though? I always came off with the impression it was rather one sided. I know people love that throwaway line "My quarters, one hour" but other than her proclaiming her love, was there really anything else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
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    They are really pushing the Gaius redemption arc pretty hard. Now he has kids, and we just killed one of them. The rest are headed down the same path, which is essentially a gruesome death.

    I like Gaius but again, this is the same guy that ordered a bunch of Scions slaughtered.

    Also, we find out that Livia was also someone he took in and trained to be a warrior. Yet it was clear they had a romantic relationship. I’m guessing he took her in as an adult? Hopefully...
    Livia's relationship with Gaius always struck me as being something closer to a one sided obsession than something mutual.
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    About the MSQ

    I keep forgetting that when an Ascian possess a body they gain that person's memories. Since Elidibus was in Zenos' body for a while then he must know about the dreams he's been having. Not really sure if that will play a role in anything, but maybe its one of the reason why he told Zenos about everything and left. He knew who Zenos soul belong to?
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    Apparently some Vii are old enough to remember the Ronkan Empire when it was at its glory days. That's...rather impressive and tells you just how long they live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    About the MSQ

    I keep forgetting that when an Ascian possess a body they gain that person's memories. Since Elidibus was in Zenos' body for a while then he must know about the dreams he's been having. Not really sure if that will play a role in anything, but maybe its one of the reason why he told Zenos about everything and left. He knew who Zenos soul belong to?
    About that...

    Depending on how all these shenanigans play out, and whether Zodiark's "heart" was sundered, and thus the original Elidibus's soul was also fragmented in the process... I can think of an interesting possibility of whose it could be. If the Resonance disguises his original soul's identity by being superimposed over it, that could be why no one (else) has picked up on it. My guess is that Elidibus has assigned "Asahi" to guide Zenos so that the Source is primed for a Rejoining when it's ready to happen since I doubt he's genuinely going to leave all that to chance.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Hmmm. What if

    If this White-Robe "Asahi" isn't actually on Elidibus' side and actually had an hand in Zenos' revival, Zenos pretty much wanted to die by killing himself in the first place, why would he get into so much trouble to die then go back reclaim his body?

    Elidibus was pretty surprised at seeing Zenos too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
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    Apparently some Vii are old enough to remember the Ronkan Empire when it was at its glory days. That's...rather impressive and tells you just how long they live.
    There has been some hints in other FF games involving Viera race that they can live over 1000 years and maybe beyond 2000 years but this discussion of how long a Viera lifespan has always been a bit of a mystery because of the "don't as a girl her age" meme.

    This will make the Veria race the longest living in any FF game despite their culture affecting their population to a smaller amount for culture expectations reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AkaeiNox View Post
    Hmmm. What if

    If this White-Robe "Asahi" isn't actually on Elidibus' side and actually had an hand in Zenos' revival, Zenos pretty much wanted to die by killing himself in the first place, why would he get into so much trouble to die then go back reclaim his body?

    Elidibus was pretty surprised at seeing Zenos too.
    Yep, I agree that that may be the case, too.

    ...especially with the recent name-drop that came in this patch. It's just hard to imagine that Elidibus would genuinely leave the situation on the Source to Zenos's whims, though, and this "Asahi" looks like someone he briefed for the job... but with that said, he could have other plans ready to unfold for that, and it may be some other hand guiding Zenos.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    There has been some hints in other FF games involving Viera race that they can live over 1000 years and maybe beyond 2000 years but this discussion of how long a Viera lifespan has always been a bit of a mystery because of the "don't as a girl her age" meme.

    This will make the Veria race the longest living in any FF game despite their culture affecting their population to a smaller amount for culture expectations reasons.
    The Wandering Dramaturge aboard the airship in Kugane says Viera can live "12-score (240) years or more".

    Regarding the beast tribe quest,
    I don't think the Viis woman said she was around for the Ronka glory days, just that she was around when the Qitari were still in the forest. And they only left the forest because of the Flood, so they were still around as recently as only 100 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    About the MSQ

    I keep forgetting that when an Ascian possess a body they gain that person's memories. Since Elidibus was in Zenos' body for a while then he must know about the dreams he's been having. Not really sure if that will play a role in anything, but maybe its one of the reason why he told Zenos about everything and left. He knew who Zenos soul belong to?
    Regarding that matter...

    I was under the impression that that only applied in the case of a still-living host like Thancred, considering that they've stated that memories are connected to an individual's soul rather then their body.

    The fact you can choose to bait Elidibus into exposing himself by asking him about Seto in the 5.2 MSQ (Whom he assumes to be deceased) as opposed to just making him decide to just give up with continued suspicion suggests he doesn't actually have any of Ardbert's memories and is going strictly off of what he knows about them from first and second-hand accounts at least.
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