It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[RognarB]

I'm more boggled by the implication that someone who objects to someone else's appearance can only restrain themself from commenting on it by removing it from their sight - which gives them exactly what they want, at the expense of what the other person might want.

That's not tolerance.

If the other person want to impose their appearance on someone despite said someone being uncomfortable with it, would it not be harassment? I doubt someone dressed as a south american ghost, complete with a white pointy hat, would make many friends in limsa or anywhere else in public. What you're asking is for the uncomfortable player to suck it up and endure something that might deeply offends them coming from someone that might be dressing in such a way that purposefully causes distress the uncomfortable player. Endure or walk away. Said player might even lash out from being cornered and at that point everybody's time is ruined.
If the player instead had a tool to shield themselves from offense, like how blacklists work, they would be able to tolerate better what offending them.

Ideally nobody would be offended by anything but alas its not the world we live in. Us humans are wired differently from one another and the best we can do is not exclude others but tolerate each other.

[Iscah]

If the other person want to impose their appearance on someone despite said someone being uncomfortable with it, would it not be harassment? I doubt someone dressed as a south american ghost, complete with a white pointy hat, would make many friends in limsa or anywhere else in public.

On the specific costume, if deliberate (which it probably would be), there are other rules that would come under besides direct harassment.

in any case you've flipped your example around and are trying to claim it's the same thing.

The first time, you were talking about giving someone the ability to turn off an "offending man in a dress" that they are personally unable to tolerate. Not because they are trying to harass the person but simply because they are wearing a dress, and somehow (according to you) if the other person "lashed out" it would be the fault of the so-called offender and not the one expressing bigotry.

Now you're talking about someone dressing up as a commonly-identified racial hate group (which, without actually checking, I would assume is prohibited in the TOS, if not actually illegal) and equating it to the same situation, which it is not. It should not be "quietly turned off" and a moderator would probably tell them to change their outfit even if the player claimed they had no idea it was offensive - whereas they wouldn't just because a male character has equipped a normal piece of clothing that their character is able to equip.

"Tolerating each other" does not involve literally refusing to tolerate the fact that someone want to dress in a way you disapprove of. It's putting aside that opinion and accepting that the person can dress like that if they want - and that they want others to see them like that. And putting up barriers where each person can see the world as they like it might create an "illusion of harmony", but really everyone is living in their own little box and it would create a really awful world where you can never be sure how you're coming across to others. It would be an uneasy feeling all the time - maybe it wouldn't bother you personally but it would certainly bother me.

Someone was recently given a suspension for existing in a public place while using a spell and it was considered harassment.

We weren't there and we don't have the context for that ruling. Did people ask him to stop? Did he say anything to others?

[Zabuza]

On the specific costume, if deliberate (which it probably would be), there are other rules that would come under besides direct harassment.

in any case you've flipped your example around and are trying to claim it's the same thing.

The first time, you were talking about giving someone the ability to turn off an "offending man in a dress" that they are personally unable to tolerate. Not because they are trying to harass the person but simply because they are wearing a dress, and somehow (according to you) if the other person "lashed out" it would be the fault of the so-called offender and not the one expressing bigotry.

Now you're talking about someone dressing up as a commonly-identified racial hate group (which, without actually checking, I would assume is prohibited in the TOS, if not actually illegal) and equating it to the same situation, which it is not. It should not be "quietly turned off" and a moderator would probably tell them to change their outfit even if the player claimed they had no idea it was offensive - whereas they wouldn't just because a male character has equipped a normal piece of clothing that their character is able to equip.

So you're okay with people dressing in whatever they like as long as it is not offensive to you. You're not being completely consistent in the 'people can wear whatever they want' argument, because obviously you have exceptions. But we're not allowed to have those exceptions, right?

[RognarB]

"Tolerating each other" does not involve literally refusing to tolerate the fact that someone want to dress in a way you disapprove of. It's putting aside that opinion and accepting that the person can dress like that if they want - and that they want others to see them like that. And putting up barriers where each person can see the world as they like it might create an "illusion of harmony"

The illusion of harmony is harmony. If it allows the most amount of people to co-exist peacefully even tho they may hold disdain for each other in private, then we've made a significant progress from all out war or conflict and harassment.
Thats tolerance.
Given that the only alternative from tolerance is population cleansing, its a pretty good thing and perhaps the best we can do.

but really everyone is living in their own little box and it would create a really awful world where you can never be sure how you're coming across to others.

We do live in a really awful world where you can never be sure how you're coming across to others. It sucks but even behind smiles and soft words, people are constantly judging each other wether they want it on not. Its human nature. The best we can hope for is to co-exist despite that fact and shield our eyes from things that offends us if thats the cost of co-existence, which is the option I'm arguing for.