No new Deep Dungeon in Shadowbringers?

[Avidria]

I would guess "content mainly for living" means day-to-day life stuff. Like the ocean fishing content, or crafting, or whatever this farm/ranch thing is. Non-battle content.

I'd think so too, it just seems super super weird to throw that in at the end of a question about deep dungeons, to say they're taking a break from making deep dungeons but they're working on... something related to ranches and living? Because of resource constraints apparently? Very strange. Maybe it was just a stream of thought type thing because it seems unrelated to the question that was asked. I ask for a clearer translation because I honestly have a hard time even following what he's trying to say with that answer as a whole.

And what if nothing of that comes true? No improvement on graphics, ARR will get some quests cut off and that's all, and even there will be no new customization for races, maybe a one hair for new races and that's all. How would you feel? As someone who's waiting for big change s since HW, they doing same stuff year by year, but we're getting less and less than before.
Something inside me still trying to believe, some hope still exists, but year by year it's just vanishing away as I see what priorities they have in mind.

Honestly if things get much more "restrained" than they are, I can already see myself spending less time playing the game. Too many things are getting binned under "not enough resources" this go round for me to be comfy with the direction things are going. Obv I'm not gonna start doomsaying and being all "game's dying rip," and I still love the game, but... I dunno. Some of the priorities lately just seem odd to me.

[Averax]

They just don't have money, little indie company, you know. If people will eat this, they'll will continue cutting content more and more, why investing more money if people happy with what they have. Let's reuse older content like Diadem, cut off one dungeon, deep dungeon, not make 4 new zones for Eureka type of content, new feast maps is not needed, new races are half finished. But hey, we just give people some casual stuff instead, that don't need any investing and they'll eat it and be happy, no complaining. This was supposed to be biggest expansion to date, but seems like all money went somewhere else. I'm more and more disappointed in this company, I don't think it's devs fault, for lack of investment and hands on their side.

The saddest thing is they (the FFXIV development team) actually DON'T have the money.

Big papa Square Enix is tight with the purse strings. So they don't even see a fraction of the funding they should have based on the game's subscriber base. Square Enix just pockets that and funnels it into their newest titles instead of maintaining a certain standard of quality. They don't feed the cash cow, they just milk it, and they'll probably even be surprised when it dries up. Instead they give people like Tetsuya Nomura unlimited resources to keep games in development hell for over a decade.

They still haven't even filled the position of director that Yoshi-P is currently occupying as well as his desired job of producer because it's cheaper to just have him do both. The fact is that SE doesn't really see much of a reason to invest very much in the game that has saved their company, and that's a major issue.

[Tlamila]

The saddest thing is they (the FFXIV development team) actually DON'T have the money.

Big papa Square Enix is tight with the purse strings. So they don't even see a fraction of the funding they should have based on the game's subscriber base. Square Enix just pockets that and funnels it into their newest titles instead of maintaining a certain standard of quality. They don't feed the cash cow, they just milk it, and they'll probably even be surprised when it dries up. Instead they give people like Tetsuya Nomura unlimited resources to keep games in development hell for over a decade.

They still haven't even filled the position of director that Yoshi-P is currently occupying as well as his desired job of producer because it's cheaper to just have him do both. The fact is that SE doesn't really see much of a reason to invest very much in the game that has saved their company, and that's a major issue.

That's also why I don't get people who white-knight saying things like: cash shop is good, they need our money! Buying fantasias is good, they need our money, etc.
They're getting a load of money from us already, every year more (we had no cash shop at first and now most cosmetics go there), subscriptions keep getting more too, but that money doesn't go back in the game anyway, we're always funding other games instead. It's sad, honestly.

[van_arn]

I hope we see something more interesting than Deep Dungeon. That grind is awful.

[RyuSaarva]

I hope we see something more interesting than Deep Dungeon. That grind is awful.

don't use it for levelling, unless you do full runs.

[Lauront]

And what if nothing of that comes true? No improvement on graphics, ARR will get some quests cut off and that's all, and even there will be no new customization for races, maybe a one hair for new races and that's all. How would you feel? As someone who's waiting for big change s since HW, they doing same stuff year by year, but we're getting less and less than before.
Something inside me still trying to believe, some hope still exists, but year by year it's just vanishing away as I see what priorities they have in mind.

Like I said earlier, I will re-consider whether it's even worth staying subbed at that point. I share a lot of your concerns and if the intention is to turn this into some farmville type game, there is no way I am paying a sub for that. To be clear, I am not defending them, but at the same time we're in a position of ignorance as to what's going on behind the scenes.

[yukiiyuki]

We should be vocal about stuff that bothers us, otherwise they will feed us more and more casual living content, that will slowly turn this game into Second Life or something with an story like in single player game. 5 instanced bosses and you can go play something else, thats not how MMO suppose to work, you can't make biggest sales ever on expansion and start cutting PVE content off, to make Umbrellas and Minion farms.

[Stormfur]

What the heck is "lifestyle content" anyway.. I'm the warrior of light...not the gardener of light..

I want to believe.. I want to give it a chance, I do...I want to be pleasantly surprised!

[Stormfur]

Beastmaster comes to mind. They did mention it as a potential Limited Job...

I know they said this.. but I keep hoping I'll wake up and it will have been a terrible dream.

[Auryan]

What the heck is "lifestyle content" anyway.. I'm the warrior of light...not the gardener of light..

I want to believe.. I want to give it a chance, I do...I want to be pleasantly surprised!

Probably more of a result of awkward translations. In the context of the conversation I took the statement to mean more social activities that encourage people to interact more. It doesn't have to be gathering or housing related (well, it could). It can also be PvE content that promotes communication.

It's all very vague. No use but to wait. Or panic as some are prone to do. That works too.