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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Rival MMO's could also potentially exploit the situation for their own game by highlighting that they allow for the use of certain mods, too.
    As much as I agree with the sentiment, I doubt some of the mods that Yoshi has gone against will be "praised" by a community if they are approved elsewhere. There is a difference, and I doubt any rival MMOs would be able to exploit it without any caveats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Besides, if they did ban thousands of players then that'd open the door to people asking why they haven't banned the hundreds of players who hang around in Ul'dah on Balmung and Mateus with explicit search info.

    A clear example of "but they did/do it too". Its glaring and well known issue with SE that there is varying levels of bias/willingness to enforce certain things in the community. But its a whole different issue when this proposed situation is so polarizing and that you're openly "breaking the rules" because you want "to make a point".

    There's an old saying in my neck of the woods that "for every bad thing, you need to do at least 10 good things to compensate". I'm sure there are better ways to approach the situation, but what's proposed here will do more harm than good.


    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    There seems to be a lack of cultural understanding here.

    This argument can easily go both ways. Its a big problem when neither party wants to meet the other where they are at because they refuse to see where they are at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    This argument can easily go both ways. Its a big problem when neither party wants to meet the other where they are at because they refuse to see where they are at.
    I'd disagree in Yoshi P's case considering he's learned a lot of English when he really doesn't have to. He attends fanfests and engages with players in different regions. The only other person I remember in SE actually engaging fans like that in recent times was Tabata but he's since left.

    The issue for the arguments is how they're presented. It's a lot of players bickering instead of a more positive interaction. For ONCE I'd love to see a thread that discusses this topic without the "I found the bad player!" or another arguing with a less skilled player by using FF logs against them. I'd like to see a person say "you know what, it's okay to fail, but I will be happy to take the time with you to help you get better" That's a more difficult approach, because "oh you're coddling" Often solutions to getting parsers in the game wants to do an hammer and chisel to the solution when you need a gentler and more patient touch to mold it into something better.

    You want your halfway point? Start sharing positive stories on how you were able to help mentor another player and was able to do it thru parsing. You found a DPS that worked their pants off so you gave them the commendation -since DPS is treated like a disposable job - easily replaced.
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