Quote Originally Posted by 3c-33 View Post
How about this: No means no. Plenty of people here have already expressed why they're not comfortable with having their character's appearance altered. If someone is not comfortable with the idea of something that involves them, they should have a say in it, and they shouldn't even have to justify why to you. The fact when someone says "no, I'm uncomfortable for x reason (or no reason at all)" and your first response is to not respect their feelings and instead try to justify why you should be able to do x thing, you are the problem. I'm sure we all learned about this simple phrase a long time ago.
Except when the person who feels uncomfortable and is involved is the viewer and as has been outlined in many responses has no choice but to view the unwanted (and totally changeable by the wearer btw) glamour. Right?


Quote Originally Posted by 3c-33 View Post
"Can I repost your art to twitter?"
"No."
"But you'll get so many likes! I'll give you credit!"

or

"You do not have permission to edit my artwork for any reason."
"But you won't even know I edited it if it's only on my screen!"
You are not an artist creating original works when you glamour your character.
"I don't want to see these glamours" does not equal "I want to steal and derive works from your artwork".


Quote Originally Posted by 3c-33 View Post
OBVIOUSLY it removes your choice to do something. That is the entire point. People die when they are killed. Instead of just saying, "okay, i see why this bothers you," because it's a matter of opinion on whether or not someone cares, the argument for this feature revolves around "here is why your opinion is wrong and why I should get to ignore it." Because of this I can't see any point in continuing to argue over this when the opposition's reasoning is rooted in ignoring how other people feel completely and why their argument is the correct one. I get not wanting to look at frog suits, as ridiculous as it sounds to me the degree to which people are bothered by it, but the choice should lie within the person it involves, not you, because they're not doing anything that should otherwise be considered offensive to you.
Number 1. not wanting to see someones glamour isn't murder or comparable in any way.
2. you are also asking people to just deal with something that concerns them so getting the argument turned back on you is fair play.
3. people are considering how they feel, and honestly you're never going to make everyone happy (this whole forum is full of threads caused by people unhappy about changes that affected them).

It's ridiculous to you that people are bothered by incongruous or flamboyant or revealing outfits, I can empathize because: imagine that same feeling when someone says that just the thought of their video game avatar possibly (not guaranteed, just maybe if they have the option on) not appearing on someone else's screen "correctly" distresses them to no end. It sounds incredibly trivial.

Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
I wasn't being petty. I was being serious.

If glamours irritate you enough to turn them off for everyone else on your screen, why should you see yourself with glamours? As for the single default gear/weapon -- that would certainly be the simplest way for a toggle to work.
Simple sure, but "you don't want to see mine, well you shouldn't see yours either!" is petty as heck. You should see yourself with glamours because the whole point of disabling OTHER peoples glamours is to customize your own experience and if you LOSE customization that kind of defeats the point.