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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy_Pyre View Post
    Dark Knight is NOT weak against physical damage, and people need to get this twisted & warped mentality out of their heads. It's the single best tank against all damage types when it comes to mitigation, it just happens to be even stronger against high magical damage than it already is against physical because of Dark Mind. However, this does not mean that it's weak against physical damage. It just means that it's even stronger against magical because Dark Mind exists. This doesn't mean that Dark Mind needs to be altered in any way, because frankly, the cooldowns of the job are all perfectly fine. Leave them as they currently are. There is merit to wanting Delirium to be changed, but that's really about the only thing that I can agree on with Dark Knight that needs major or even really minor altering.
    Maybe I didn't expressed my self properly, I didn't mean to say current DRK is weaker against physical damage, what I want to say current DRK kit put the job on 2 possible situations aka weaker against physical and comparable on magical to other tanks or comparable on physical and busted on magical like right now, current DRK is this last one but DRK in the past was on the first situation a lot, after the buffs of 4.3 DRK was way to strong on mitigation in omega.

    So to the point dark mind needs to be touched, DRK mitigation kit is busted we all know that and against magical TB the job is beyond broken thanks in great part to dark mind + TBN so yeah for the sake of balance dark mind needs to be nerfed to avoid being abused like it's currently being done and changed a bit to DRK no longer have to be in the situation of being weak on physical or to busted on magical without middle term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    So to the point dark mind needs to be touched, DRK mitigation kit is busted we all know that and against magical TB the job is beyond broken thanks in great part to dark mind + TBN so yeah for the sake of balance dark mind needs to be nerfed to avoid being abused like it's currently being done and changed a bit to DRK no longer have to be in the situation of being weak on physical or to busted on magical without middle term.
    No Dark Mind doesn't need to be nerfed or altered DRK is fine where it is the only things they need to touch are small QoL buffs such as Blood Weapon it's mitigation is stellar and that's what makes it stand out vs the other 3 tanks. It's got great uses in all forms of savage content before 5.2 comes out (E1S Lazors/double Lazors, E2S TBs, E3S TBs/double stack in Tsu 2/Black Smokers, E4S for Titans magical fists and Tumults) it flows nicely and TBN lines up naturally with almost all TBs/critical damage like E1S bleeds or Titans car attack.

    If we're talking useless look at PLD in HW where it couldn't block magic and it was a detriment to bring vs WAR/DRK which was busted that's a better example of busted mitigation where you have Storms Path + Reprisal + old Delirium + Dark Arts'd DM where poor PLD didn't have that luxury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danelo View Post
    I understand that tbn + dm is powerful but isn't that appropriate when considering the strengths and weaknesses within the ranking role? DRK is by most accounts meant to be the lead in mitigation which is why dm having no physical mitigation aspect to it is strange. You wouldn’t make NF (or another stand-in self-sustain tool) ineffective in 50% (or whatever percent physical to magical attacks there are), same goes for PLDs utility, or GNBs dps. It’s a unique strength to their class to make them stand apart.

    Mitigation is DRKs strength this expansion so it makes no sense to have DM gimped (especially when their self-sustain has been nerfed beyond recognition).
    when a strength is to strong i consider it a problem to have looked at, i always up in to variety and unique perks but if something stands to make a job mandatory/ highly prefered due how strong is his perk then i consider it a problem, Dark mind + TBN combo needs to be tunned down, recast increased, mitigation potency nerfed whatever its needs to be done, DRK self sustain is not really a excuse since it have the strongest pasive self heals and PLD for example don't even have one without costing him dps.
    many ppl pick DRK even when they recognice they would have way much more fun with other tanks bcs how strong is his mitigation, so basically they pick the job bcs his mitigation is busted and they like that and thats a balance problem and it's not like we lack proofs of this due how DRK rules TEA the same conten where we are supose to be balanced at.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    No Dark Mind doesn't need to be nerfed or altered DRK is fine where it is the only things they need to touch are small QoL buffs such as Blood Weapon it's mitigation is stellar and that's what makes it stand out vs the other 3 tanks. It's got great uses in all forms of savage content before 5.2 comes out (E1S Lazors/double Lazors, E2S TBs, E3S TBs/double stack in Tsu 2/Black Smokers, E4S for Titans magical fists and Tumults) it flows nicely and TBN lines up naturally with almost all TBs/critical damage like E1S bleeds or Titans car attack.

    If we're talking useless look at PLD in HW where it couldn't block magic and it was a detriment to bring vs WAR/DRK which was busted that's a better example of busted mitigation where you have Storms Path + Reprisal + old Delirium + Dark Arts'd DM where poor PLD didn't have that luxury.
    when a encounter have enough magic damage in a fair rate this put DRK in a unfairly position of superiority, on normal basics DRK is already the strongest mitigation tank, if we start adding magical attacks DRK have so much mitigation that no tank can compete against that and put it on a situation where DRK just faceroll the content, TEA is our most recent example, Dark mind needs to be put on a 90s recast to avoid the DM +TBN combo face roll every single magical TB, the diference of dps it's minimun and the utility it's almost the same (DRK have TBN surpasing all single target utility and PLD pay his excesive party utility with less personal mitigation) so why the diference on mitigation have to be so big? i understand no body want something to be nerfed but this case it's pretty obvious that dark mind needs to be balanced to avoid the extra superiority on a job that already surpas everyone on mitigation on content where magical is non-existed.
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    Last edited by shao32; 02-14-2020 at 02:29 AM. Reason: Wording and some words mistakes