Thread: Dark Knight moving forward: Job change ideas for 6.0

Bring back the MP/Blood feedback.

Quietus -> Restores some amount of MP per enemy hit
Flood of Darkness -> Gains some amount of Blood per enemy hit

Turn Darkside into a Pseudo Resource

Darkside as a Duration Buff, where the duration is taxed when additional effects are added. Base duration of 1 / 1.

Salted Earth turned into a toggle-able AoE Damage aura. Increases Darkside's rate of depletion.
One or two new abilities focus around this concept.

Maybe: Situational deterrent for hitting 0 Darkside. AoE explosion + X duration of Pacify, as example.

New Charge Sub-type

For Actions that can be used even at 0 charge but gain a specific benefit when a charge is available.

Abyssal Drain: Gains a charge every X seconds. (30, 45, 60, whatever). When a charge is available, Abyssal Drain's MP cost is reduced to 0.
Abyssal Drain is now a Darkside skill.

Active Defense and Retaliation

Dark Mind evolves into Dark Missionary.

Dark Missionary's "button economy" relegated to a GCD cooldown, reducing incoming damage for a short duration and delivering a PBAOE weaponskill counter attack, ramping up as more hits are taken during this duration.

Originally Posted by Kabooa

Bring back the MP/Blood feedback.

Quietus -> Restores some amount of MP per enemy hit
Flood of Darkness -> Gains some amount of Blood per enemy hit

I'm not sure resource exchange for its own sake will be worth anything, but

Originally Posted by Kabooa

Turn Darkside into a Pseudo Resource

Darkside as a Duration Buff, where the duration is taxed when additional effects are added. Base duration of 1 / 1.

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New Charge Sub-type

For Actions that can be used even at 0 charge but gain a specific benefit when a charge is available.

Hell yeah. Would love to see that.

Same with the Active Defense and Retaliation bit. When I first heard the name and saw the animation for Shadow Wall, that's pretty much what I imagined -- a channeled shield that converts damage absorbed into temporary MP to spend as quickly as possible (since it'd fade quickly otherwise) after defending with Shadow Wall, where you actually hold that shadow wall animation up for it, and the skill pushes back its cooldown by a flat amount immediately and then some amount per second of use.

I'd wish Darkside and Living Shadow got expanded upon a bit. It feels like there was supposed to be something there that was taken out before release. There's a new job gauge with both of those timers on it even though Darkside barely needs a timer and having a timer for Fray is pointless. It's like there was some planned interaction between the two and I hope whatever it was, we'd get that in 6.0 because at least for me DRK is a "resource management" tank and I'd like to see that side expanded especially since it looks like something like that might've been in the works but just got canceled.

Regardless of the above, I think something we should get (and could get in a patch right now) is the ability to sic Fray to make him switch targets. MCH Queen has the same problem. Make the summon button a sic button while they're out or add another separate button for it. Kind of minor but quite annoying when you'd actually want to have them switch targets.

Delirium seems like an afterthought and is one of the few things I dislike. I just don't feel like adding another "press the same button 5 times" burst on the one old tank that didn't already have that is a very imaginative or good idea. There has got to be a more interesting burst design out there. I'll deal with Delirium for ShB because while it's dull it's at least not clunky but I really hope for a redesigned burst come 6.0.

Living dead.. yeah. Every patch I'm waiting for a change and I truly hope we don't have to wait until 6.0 for it. It's especially jarring when WAR Holmgang keeps getting fiddled with. Needing a target and locking you in place is clunky? Let's take that away. Oh you can't take 3 Titania tethers or all 3 Titan stonecrusher hits with a single button like other tanks? Here's a couple of extra seconds for you. I'm glad for Warriors getting that but our invulnerability still KILLS US. I honestly can't believe were still dealing with this.

My only wish is if they make our shadow clone follow us, attack same target and copy all our skills and gave to us all the benefits for using those skills like double heal or double MP/blood gauge.

I wished for it before release, would make DRK so much deeper and fun.

Originally Posted by Nedkel

My only wish is if they make our shadow clone follow us, attack same target and copy all our skills and gave to us all the benefits for using those skills like double heal or double MP/blood gauge.

I wished for it before release, would make DRK so much deeper and fun.

How would we differ it from Bunshin?

I'm not saying the similarities to Bunshin would preclude the possibility of such a version of Living Shadow, but is there anything more we can do to give the change its full bite?

Originally Posted by jetfire117

I been trying to figure out how we could have a 2nd combo again.

For a second combo they could give us Scourge back and stick it at the end of the combo ala Goring Blade.

Originally Posted by EpicOverlord85

For a second combo they could give us Scourge back and stick it at the end of the combo ala Goring Blade.

So we'd finally get a boon to our class complexity, but it'd be in a way that copies yet another job and detracts from DRK's unique smoothness?

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

So we'd finally get a boon to our class complexity, but it'd be in a way that copies yet another job and detracts from DRK's unique smoothness?

Or just give us back scourge in all its original glory.




I just really want it back