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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    I've been reading this thread and responses so far but this one...

    I lost my mother 2 years ago this Feburary 15. That's right as of me posting this its 4 days until the second anniversary of my mother's death. She was wasnt even 63 years old and died of congestive heart failure. Do I empathize with Emet on his losses? Yes I do. Would I go about destroying lives just to bring my loved ones back who have died? HELL NO! The ends do NOT justify the means in this Scenario nor did Hydaelyn kill people to split the world into the Source with 13 shards. Life is still life weither the memories are completely intact or not. It's like saying that someone who has amnesia is dead or even people suffering from an illness such as dementia or Alzheimer are no longer living.
    To be fair, yours is not the correct comparison. Your mother was a human, just like you and everyone else. Emet, and all His people are/were not. You may not like the idea of killing living beings from your same race to bring her back to life, but you sure'll consider It if those were the lives of lower beings, like rats (to give an example). Also, he did lose pretty much all his people, not only the ones who gave their lives to their god, but also the ones shattered by mom crystal
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolicon09 View Post
    To be fair, yours is not the correct comparison. Your mother was a human, just like you and everyone else. Emet, and all His people are/were not. You may not like the idea of killing living beings from your same race to bring her back to life, but you sure'll consider It if those were the lives of lower beings, like rats (to give an example). Also, he did lose pretty much all his people, not only the ones who gave their lives to their god, but also the ones shattered by mom crystal
    That would be like the equivalent of a Miqo'te slaughtering all the other races simply because their different and that Miqo'te stood to benefit from their demise. It's obviously immoral.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    That would be like the equivalent of a Miqo'te slaughtering all the other races simply because their different and that Miqo'te stood to benefit from their demise. It's obviously immoral.
    It won't, since all the playable races in this game are labelled as humans
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolicon09 View Post
    It won't, since all the playable races in this game are labelled as humans
    That's the game's label. All it would take is a Miqo'te labeling all the other races non-human or sub-human to justify their demise. Emet attached labels such as "not alive" to the living so he could justify killing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolicon09 View Post
    Also, he did lose pretty much all his people, not only the ones who gave their lives to their god, but also the ones shattered by mom crystal
    The poor helpless god-like Ancients tried everything to stem the Chaos descending upon their best of all possible worlds, even going so far as to willingly sacrifice themselves in order to bring back Order to that Chaos by summoning ... Zodiark.

    If that were the extent of things, I'd agree that the poor helpless god-like Ancients dodged a bullet and life goes on.

    But then, a bunch of the poor helpless god-like Ancients who survived the Chaos got the great idea that they should sacrifice everything else that wasn't a poor helpless god-like Ancient to their 'god' in order to bring back those who sacrificed themselves in the first place. Who could have told them that this new sacrifice would be enough?

    Could it have been ... Zodiark!?! Would Zodiark possibly mislead those poor helpless god-like Ancients? We know that the Ascians certainly have done so, and they created Zodiark in the first place.

    Some portion of the poor helpless god-like Ancients decided this wasn't a good thing. They sacrificed themselves to call out another god, Hydaelyn, to prevent the sacrifice of every life that wasn't a poor helpless god-like Ancient.

    There was a battle, and Zodiark was defeated and imprisoned. We don't know if it was Hydaelyn who shattered the world into shards, or Zodiark's last desperate attempt at winning the battle that did it. We do know that Hydaelyn has been picking up the pieces ever since.

    And the poor helpless god-like Ancients, now calling themselves Ascians, who survived have been trying again and again to to undo their initial "noble sacrifice" for the sake of a suspect god named Zodiark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolicon09 View Post
    To be fair, yours is not the correct comparison. Your mother was a human, just like you and everyone else. Emet, and all His people are/were not. You may not like the idea of killing living beings from your same race to bring her back to life, but you sure'll consider It if those were the lives of lower beings, like rats (to give an example). Also, he did lose pretty much all his people, not only the ones who gave their lives to their god, but also the ones shattered by mom crystal
    And if you re read what I wrote I did not specify human lives to be destroyed to bring my mother back I said lives meaning any sort of life for that matter.
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