Can we get choices that really matter and have a effect?

[LolitaBansheeMeru]

I'm just saying this on a personal level so it might not hold true but this is just how I feel about it. Alot of things just feel so Meha I mean it builds up sorrow/joy/anger at moments which fade to meha who cares later on throughout the story for me personally the reason I'm like well who cares what happan to X now we are way way past it to the point that character doesnt matter any more ... is simple no meaningfull choices that we the players can decide. Not saying anything major like good/evil choices but sometimes through the story I personally would have made a choice to Join with zenos or help Emat yet what really got under my skin is the character offered the open ended choice without a box to maybe help them escape secretly or offer to learn their powers. Maybe give rogues a choice to steal from the npcs in the town or something just some kind of real choice that really holds deep meaning instend of answering a choice box that honestly has little to no meaning. I don't really like this example but guildwars has a nice method for given meaningfull depth to the characters story with a simple 3 question menu on creation which has impact on how the story plays out for those choices you decided. Or give us story where we have to go against the good guys to take items and cause some damage instend of the goody toe shoes. I mean it could be like Kill the 3 grand company leaders for the greater good or something

Maybe even a story where we have to get caught and thrown into a dungeon then break out like the classic moments in many jrpgs

[Edax]

Even if it's a very basic branch in the story, if it can give the WoL a chance at extra character development, I'd be for it.

[VenKitsune]

I doubt it'd be worth their time or money to do so, unfortunately. I'd just be happy with more dialogue options, even if they do only change how an NPC responds for a single speech bubble and nothing more, i'd be happier with that.

[MitsukiKimura]

Give me the options to act like Fray and I'll throw more money at Square Enix

[Latarma]

Give me the options to act like Fray and I'll throw more money at Square Enix

this so much this in my head Latarma is always thinking along the line of" really must i do everything wtf can't you do it, just once"

[tdb]

The law of development resources says no. Especially to big earthshattering choices like joining your adversary instead of defeating them. If you joined Zenos back in Stormblood, Shadowbringers would either have not happened at all, or would have played very differently since you'd have been surrounded by Garleans instead of Scions. If you decided Emet-Selch was right and wanted to help him, it would invalidate everything that happened in the story afterwards. Et cetera. The developers would have to write several different storylines, perhaps even create several parallel expansions to accommodate this kind of choices.

More reasonable is to have fixed consequences but let character choices affect how or why things get done. Do you raise money to buy the exorbitantly expensive medicine or steal it instead? Do you go in weapons drawn or try to sneak in without anyone noticing? Star Wars: The Old Republic does this sort of thing and it works really well to give the player control of their character's personality. However, FFXIV is already on its third expansion and hasn't done this, so it would be somewhat weird to start now.

[LolitaBansheeMeru]

The law of development resources says no. Especially to big earthshattering choices like joining your adversary instead of defeating them. If you joined Zenos back in Stormblood, Shadowbringers would either have not happened at all, or would have played very differently since you'd have been surrounded by Garleans instead of Scions. If you decided Emet-Selch was right and wanted to help him, it would invalidate everything that happened in the story afterwards. Et cetera. The developers would have to write several different storylines, perhaps even create several parallel expansions to accommodate this kind of choices.

More reasonable is to have fixed consequences but let character choices affect how or why things get done. Do you raise money to buy the exorbitantly expensive medicine or steal it instead? Do you go in weapons drawn or try to sneak in without anyone noticing? Star Wars: The Old Republic does this sort of thing and it works really well to give the player control of their character's personality. However, FFXIV is already on its third expansion and hasn't done this, so it would be somewhat weird to start now.

Honestly it wouldn't be weird to start now we learned the truth from an ascian that the light crystal is a bad super primal that destoryed millions of lifes so we could realistic get a choice to kneel to zodiak now... not even counting we are warriors of darkness/light so we could get a meaningfull choice which we want to stay on now... so in all honesty now is a perfect time for it. Not even counting our friendship with 3 primals currently of lower standing ramuh,shiva, and bismark so realistic primals are not bad overall.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Honestly it wouldn't be weird to start now we learned the truth from an ascian that the light crystal is a bad super primal that destoryed millions of lifes so we could realistic get a choice to kneel to zodiak now... not even counting we are warriors of darkness/light so we could get a meaningfull choice which we want to stay on now... so in all honesty now is a perfect time for it.

That's only if you believe his side of the story. Clearly enough people didn't believe they should continue sacrificing their own kind to zokiark, and summoned hydaelyn to stop it.

[LolitaBansheeMeru]

That's only if you believe his side of the story. Clearly enough people didn't believe they should continue sacrificing their own kind to zokiark, and summoned hydaelyn to stop it.

Well that right there is a real choice you just gave that could have real effect rather you choice to believe him or believe the lies all others characters have told you up to this point and let that lead you down a path of being a warrior of either darkness/light permently wouldn't have to even split storys just change the object based on what your character believes.

[Razard]

Well that right there is a real choice you just gave that could have real effect rather you choice to believe him or believe the lies all others characters have told you up to this point and let that lead you down a path of being a warrior of either darkness/light permently wouldn't have to even split storys just change the object based on what your character believes.

Hard to call things people tell us "lies" when literally no one else was alive during the sundering. And our only surviving "source" on the matter is questionable at best, lying by omission at worst, because he and his compatriots outright tell you they where tempered by Zodiark.

It doesn't help their case that, despite all of Elidibus' talk of "You'd be on our side if only you knew the truth(paraphrasing)" he spouted back in 2.1, all of our interactions with the Ascians have been met with vague words, death threats and murder attempts. Lots of murder attempts. Emet himself got the closest to trying to come to an understanding before he shot one of our friends in the back and pretty much left us to die by the light to meet his own ends.

Doesn't really endear you to a faction really does it?