Thank you Yoshi for your stance on DPS meters

[Canada_bangs]

♪ I'll only have sex with you if you show me your logs ♪, showwww me your logs.. baby ♪ gotta make sure I'm not with a low dpser......low dpser ♪ (like you) ♪ ~

So come and take a walk with me, to PARADISE, PARADISE. Just show me those logs, so we can walk in paradise.

[Hash_Browns]

Which again is, you could have left well enough alone and moved on and done something else. You just basically took the flamebait.

Nah, taking the bait would have been arguing pointlessly back and forth like the other 2 people in the thread are about logs. That's true bait right there.

[QT_Melon]

Nah, taking the bait would have been arguing pointlessly back and forth like the other 2 people in the thread are about logs. That's true bait right there.

Both are. This isn't a mutually exclusive problem.

[SturmChurro]

I didn't know checking your logs was such a controversial thing! Good thing I play a healer and don't need to DPS!

[Hash_Browns]

I didn't know checking your logs was such a controversial thing! Good thing I play a healer and don't need to DPS!

This right here.. THIS is true bait.

[QT_Melon]

This right here.. THIS is true bait.

“To do nothing at all is the most difficult thing in the world, the most difficult and the most intellectual.” - Oscar Wilde.
(yes the irony is not lost on me).

I'm not against parsing, most of my statements have been about the way the community here reacts is in direct conflict with another culture. I'm saying most of my mindset is how to work around it than the needless back and forth and engaging players to perform better.

[Hash_Browns]

“To do nothing at all is the most difficult thing in the world, the most difficult and the most intellectual.” - Oscar Wilde.
(yes the irony is not lost on me).

I'm not against parsing, most of my statements have been about the way the community here reacts is in direct conflict with another culture. I'm saying most of my mindset is how to work around it than the needless back and forth and engaging players to perform better.

I'm not interested in the "stay silent" tactic on an open forum discussion about video games. You're also kinda misusing the quote, and in this context it makes you look like one of those big brain memes.

You also aren't really gaining any ground by telling people they should have stayed silent, while constantly going on and on about how they should have stayed silent. I don't even understand the point you're trying to make. Staying silent isn't a good tactic in any discussion. Ever.

[DynnDiablos]

The animosity directed at me for saying I would report someone for mentioning my DPS is truly shocking. Nowhere did I claim to be "God's gift to DPS" or that I was "untouchable." Could my delivery have been nicer? Sure. However, I am not one to mince words or beat around the bush. If you are going to use an outside program to check DPS, keep it to yourself. Do not engage with others about it. It truly is that simple.

While my logs people looked up showed I wasn't optimal, for me those numbers mean nothing because I'm following mechanics, not dying and clearing the dungeon or raid. Why? Because this is how the game is designed.

The fact of the matter is this...this game does not base player skill based on an outside application that checks DPS. That is now how Final Fantasy XIV determines whether a player is good or bad and if they should clear content (yes I know there are DPS checks in fights and these can determine wipes). Most players do not use these tools, many probably don't know they exist. However, quite a few PC players use them and have take it upon themselves to use these numbers to determine who is good vs. bad, and feel they are now the gatekeepers of content, like Gandalf screaming "You shall not pass."

That's now how the game works inherently. If you know the mechanics, your gear is up to date, and you aren't causing the party to wipe and clearing the dungeon, raid etc. You are deemed worthy of the reward. Whether someone's DPS is high enough is irrelevant because the game itself has no way to analyze these things nor does it bring it to the player's attention.

People play this game for many different reasons. Some are raiders, some love the extreme challenge of Savage, Extreme and Ultimate. Many players play strictly for the story. You can't expect people to all want advice on how to improve DPS or even care to optimize these things if that is not their focus.

I play strictly for the STORY and I gather and craft. I love making millions, updating my house. I only do dungeons and raids for roulettes for tomes to keep my gear up. I wouldn't enter Savage content because I am just not interested in that.

Final Fantasy XIV truly is a single-player FF title with an MMO wrapping. It isn't designed ultimately for people who want to analyze every aspect of their DPS numbers, rotation, etc.

Am I saying there is something wrong with that? Absolutely not. If you PERSONALLY want to improve and is your focus, perfect. Go with God. However, don't expect that other players have the same goals.

If players are following mechanics, not dying consistently, and you can clear the dungeon or raid without a wipe. That shouldn't be a problem. The fact you personally want it to go faster, then that is on you and maybe you should form your own party with your own set of rules.

I could have presented this case without the snark for sure the first time. Can't go back and change yesterday.

[DynnDiablos]

I'm not interested in the "stay silent" tactic on an open forum discussion about video games. You're also kinda misusing the quote, and in this context it makes you look like one of those big brain memes.

You also aren't really gaining any ground by telling people they should have stayed silent, while constantly going on and on about how they should have stayed silent. I don't even understand the point you're trying to make. Staying silent isn't a good tactic in any discussion. Ever.

I am not for silencing anyone, personally I am happy you didn't. While many don't agree with my initial delivery of my opinion and that is completely justified, I wouldn't expect you to not comment or state what you need to say whether I agree with it or not. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing. I say speak your truth. I will speak mine.

Sure, I didn't like what you had to say or how you said it, but that's neither here nor there. At the end of the day, we all are human. Am I a nasty b at times? Yup, won't deny that. However, at the end of the day, my stance is that parsers should be personal and other players should be left alone to play how they want.

[Angus-Beef]

Words

You see, No ones denying any of that, BUT, BUT,when you join a Savage/ EX/Ultimate Clear, YOu need to know your stuff, parsers help with that. The issue isn't even the parser anymore, its about the plug ins people use to cheat. Yoshi P literally talked for around 40 min about people using plug ins to cheat in Ultimate and move markers instantly, not about people parsing with ACT.

In the end if you enjoy doing what you do, stay in your lane, you don't do savage nor PF savage and deal with that specific player type, so no need for you to worry about what affects that end of the community.