SE, don't nerf SMN's DoT potency. Remove Tri-Disaster's Reset Mechanic First.

[Silverquick]

Summoner's problems are not DoT damage.

That's not what I'm getting at my friend.

The point is not that they need MORE DoTs... the point is, that nerfing the DoTs causes catastrophic damage to the job in ways you cannot foresee and will end up having to fixed later.

This is what we learned over that.

You have to pick something other than the DoTs to nerf because of how integrated and critical they are at all levels.

[Kabooa]

That's not what I'm getting at my friend.

The point is not that they need MORE DoTs... the point is, that nerfing the DoTs causes catastrophic damage to the job in ways you cannot foresee and will end up having to fixed later.

This is what we learned over that.

You have to pick something other than the DoTs to nerf because of how integrated and critical they are at all levels.

Nah. They're going to pick DoTs, adjust them down to maybe 45, 40 potentially with a slight boost to Ruin, and Summoner will be fine.

[HyperiusUltima]

That's not what I'm getting at my friend.

The point is not that they need MORE DoTs... the point is, that nerfing the DoTs causes catastrophic damage to the job in ways you cannot foresee and will end up having to fixed later.

This is what we learned over that.

You have to pick something other than the DoTs to nerf because of how integrated and critical they are at all levels.

This speaks true, but to be fair they're mainly going to focus on the 3rd iteration and not touch anything else below it. That way, it won't impact the experience when you're leveling. However, as OP stated, there needs to be a change to Tri-D. Ever since they slapped 300 potency on it, it's interrupted the original use of it, which was only for reset purposes and not pure damage. Reverting it to having no potency would fix SMN's contribution issue since the Snapshotting of Buffs can be looked at at a separate time when they're going into 5.4 or 6.0.

[Kabooa]

This speaks true, but to be fair they're mainly going to focus on the 3rd iteration and not touch anything else below it. That way, it won't impact the experience when you're leveling. However, as OP stated, there needs to be a change to Tri-D. Ever since they slapped 300 potency on it, it's interrupted the original use of it, which was only for reset purposes and not pure damage. Reverting it to having no potency would fix SMN's contribution issue since the Snapshotting of Buffs can be looked at at a separate time when they're going into 5.4 or 6.0.

Remember Tridisaster used to give Ruination.

Ruin didn't get the potency folded into it after its removal, Outburst did. The 300 upfront potency is the same as if you made perfect use of Ruination (15 seconds, 6 gcds, +50 per gcd used on Ruin)

While the change made it easier to always get the full benefit, it also isn't just a flat +900 every two minutes. Removing the potency with nothing coming back is nearly the same as losing out on two Demi Enkindles.

[Silverquick]

This speaks true, but to be fair they're mainly going to focus on the 3rd iteration and not touch anything else below it. That way, it won't impact the experience when you're leveling. However, as OP stated, there needs to be a change to Tri-D. Ever since they slapped 300 potency on it, it's interrupted the original use of it, which was only for reset purposes and not pure damage. Reverting it to having no potency would fix SMN's contribution issue since the Snapshotting of Buffs can be looked at at a separate time when they're going into 5.4 or 6.0.

I think its being looked at wrong in terms of what you can look at as far as more targeted that won't affect the Job up and down the chain the way DoTs do. Because even level 66 and higher is a ton of content that would be affected.

Instead of looking at the DoTs which do cause that kind of problem to the Job.

Perhaps instead they should be looking at things like Wyrmwave and Scarlet Flame that won't have the potential to cause that kind of catastrophic damage up and down the levels.

Those are the types of things that would be specifically targeted and not affect the job up and down the chain like that.

[HyperiusUltima]

I think its being looked at wrong in terms of what you can look at as far as more targeted that won't affect the Job up and down the chain the way DoTs do. Because even level 66 and higher is a ton of content that would be affected.

Instead of looking at the DoTs which do cause that kind of problem to the Job.

Perhaps instead they should be looking at things like Wyrmwave and Scarlet Flame that won't have the potential to cause that kind of catastrophic damage up and down the levels.

Those are the types of things that would be specifically targeted and not affect the job up and down the chain like that.

...you're missing the point. It doesn't go up and down the entire leveling spectrum as you keep saying it does unless they blanket Miasma 1-3 and Bio 1-3, which is illogical. At Lv 66, you should know at least the basis of your job. They specifically are targeting DoTs because that's generally what causes 2-target high-end raids to favor SMN over most other jobs because of how damage contribution skyrockets in that regard. Lv 70 and Lv 80 though...they really shouldn't tweak their burst phase because if they do, it's going to make SMN's damage be lower than it would be with DoTs considering the potency attached.