Quote Originally Posted by Elladie View Post
It is definitely a community issue and people like myself have been driven away from doing any kind of group content except with people we know who understand and accept our handicaps. I struggle with fight mechanics mainly because I suffer from directional dyslexia and this is compounded by sheer panic until I've done the fight so many times that I can chill, recognise the tells, and deal with them. I understand people don't want to deal with this in DF so I don't run dungeons any more, i level my jobs solo. But then I get attacked by implication in threads like this which assume I'm lazy and mediocre. I have run Dohn Mheg five times over the last two days with multiple wipes each run on the first two bosses. I am learning BLM - improving slowly so that's great - and also trying to figure out the mechanics. Finally worked out that if I run to a big puddle it's okay. I would not have learned that from a guide or someone explaining it because my brain doesn't retain the information. I have to practice over and over til I get it. Yelling at me to git gud is really unhelpful and on occasions when I've tried to explain - including in threads in this very forum - I get told to stop making excuses for bad players. This community makes me despair
There is a difference between those with disabilities vs those who are lazy. If you have a legitimate handicap, most everyone is not gonna fault you. The idea everyone's a jerk who wont see eye to eye with you presupposes the worst intentions and nature of those around you before even interacting with them and does them as big a disservice as those who would get on your case for having trouble beyond your control.

That being said, while you shouldn't be getting flak for doing mid tier content, I wouldnt blame raiders for excluding you from doing Savage with them. They have a goal and if you have difficulty keeping up, even if its not something you cant control, it is unfair to them to be held back. At that point it would be find a raid group who will persevere with you or opt out of that content. I know its not fair or just but thats kind of how it is. Its a crap thing and if there was a good solution Id be all for it.

The bigger point of this thread, however, isnt going after folks such as yourself. It's going after folks who dont give a rat butt about improving and just do the bare minimum effort, expect to be rewarded equally with those who do put in effort and skill, and then complain to SE (and having SE capitulate) to make content easier cause "We're not hardcore". The issue with that is that SE only has so much time and resources so if they make content to easy, they will not have the time for harder content. Top this off with people who take their casual attitude into more difficult content and make a mess of things, yeah, there is a problem. I think the problem is both community and SE. SE should be telling some of these players to 'get gud'. If you cant be bothered to even push buttons and stand in AoEs, you shouldnt be allowed to clear even casual dungeons, let alone EX modes or 24 man Raids. There should be a skill floor. If you have a harder time doing that content because of things beyond your control, then maybe an 'Easy' Mode should be available to you, but that easy mode has restrictions such as less gear and gil and designed that if youre goal is to maximize experience and loot, that it should be far less efficient to clear the easy modes as well, however not inherently more difficult. If were gonna say the current is the easy mode, then maybe SE should (and I shutter to say this) take a leaf from WoW and create 'mythic' dungeons and the like that are tuned specifically to be brutal to complete but reward you a ton for doing so. The community problem is simply holding people to standards. Unless someone makes it clear that they have trouble or are new to the content, people should be kicking bad players out of groups more frequently.

In any case, yeah skill floors need to be a thing. If the game becomes any easier than it is or too casual, you will lose your hardcore base OR split the user base and promote hyper toxicity between the more skilled players and the more casual players. Either situation is bad for the game's health.