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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    I would take slightly similar and/or repeatative scenery for the sake of a seemless environment over the other alternatives anyday.
    Just wondering, why on earth would you want that?

    Sure it saves memory, but many people find it boring and a huge eyesore. Besides, just because there's some differences in textures or terrain, doesn't mean that you'll be running into a loading screen every couple minutes (if that's what you're worried about..)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalObsidian View Post
    Just wondering, why on earth would you want that?

    Sure it saves memory, but many people find it boring and a huge eyesore. Besides, just because there's some differences in textures or terrain, doesn't mean that you'll be running into a loading screen every couple minutes (if that's what you're worried about..)
    Because those are reason that cause hiccups, in particular the hiccups that cause clients to freee, and what not, that make you need to relog. And your wrong in many cases. Thats precisely why you get lag and loading pauses in alot of games that causes them to freeze.

    You mention eye sore.......there are alot of games with 100 times the subscriptions of FXIV whose graphics of the game as a whole, I consider an eye sore. As was already mentioned, I guess its personal preference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Because those are reason that cause hiccups, in particular the hiccups that cause clients to freee, and what not, that make you need to relog. And your wrong in many cases. Thats precisely why you get lag and loading pauses in alot of games that causes them to freeze.

    You mention eye sore.......there are alot of games with 100 times the subscriptions of FXIV whose graphics of the game as a whole, I consider an eye sore. As was already mentioned, I guess its personal preference.
    My game already hiccups, freezes, and lags pretty bad, no matter what settings I put graphics at >.> Smaller areas, not to mention with the better engine that'll be used in 2.0, will fix a lot of these issues as well as making everything look nicer.

    Why on earth would subscription counts matter? Graphics don't determine subs, and shouldn't even be mentioned in something like this.

    I also find it funny that you say this is based off of personal preference then accuse my personal pref of being wrong. Please, not to sound rude, but just think before you speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalObsidian View Post
    My game already hiccups, freezes, and lags pretty bad, no matter what settings I put graphics at

    And yet you seem so confident that it would be better with more defined one lines and in depth graphic then we have now. It reasonable for large areas to have similar landscape and base design. DO you think you walk accross a desert and then BAM, it changes into forrest instantly. plains area...then....BAM.....you in the middle of a desert again all of the sudden. NO, plains are large and outstretching, mountain ranges run on and on. Just because you want everything to look identicle to the concept at, does not mean thats the "right way". Just because every zone doesn't have opposing and contrasting scenery as the last doesn't make it the locical, wisest, or technically most sound way to go.

    >.> Smaller areas, not to mention with the better engine that'll be used in 2.0, will fix a lot of these issues as well as making everything look nicer.

    Well you and many other are sitting here posting "your opinions" of the art and graphics and stating it as fact. Just because anyone here post that they do not feel the finished product is in the spirit of the concept art does not make it true.

    Why on earth would subscription counts matter? Because this is a business and subscritions are all that counts, your a fool to attempt to tell me otherwise. Everything a dev does in this game is simply a means to an end to keep players happy, gain more players and maximize the sub count.

    Graphics don't determine subs, and shouldn't even be mentioned in something like this.

    Are you new here ot just slow?

    I also find it funny that you say this is based off of personal preference then accuse my personal pref of being wrong. Please, not to sound rude, but just think before you speak.

    I did think. Then I posted actually proven facts of reason a game client can have issues based on graphics and zone lines. I posted actual facts of issues and concerns that cause hiccups. You posted your opinion of the art and claimed it more factual then my actual facts. Odd, and here your telling me I should think? Brilliant sir.
    Personally I feel graphics are a bit overatted, but to sit here and claim they are not a factor in subscription numbers is asinine. Look at the forums here, there is thread after thread of grahpics and zone debate, including this one. There are tones of threads of player character graphics, more on gear graphics, and more still on WS/Spell graphics, They poll and test on this, look around and read some of it.

    I could sit here and say "oh in my opinion storyline does not effect subs" but that doesn't make it true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Personally I feel graphics are a bit overatted, but to sit here and claim they are not a factor in subscription numbers is asinine. Look at the forums here, there is thread after thread of grahpics and zone debate, including this one. There are tones of threads of player character graphics, more on gear graphics, and more still on WS/Spell graphics, They poll and test on this, look around and read some of it.
    There are three main components for computer game: story, gameplay and graphics
    There's already lots of MMORPGs with good story and gameplay but there's few with good graphics. So to sell lots of copies it's obviously a good idea to target that
    Sadly an MMORPG can't live only from good graphics (especially if it crashes every five minutes)
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