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    AurynSaber's Avatar
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    I completely agree that whoever wins gets a bigger reward than everyone else, I guess nobody doubts that.

    But in general, competitions with 1st, 2nd and 3rd place all have a medal system, not to diminish the work of the winners which is undoubtful, but also to praise the effort of those who go in and work hard. Sometimes, the match is decided in the last minute and it's neck to neck between all GC's.

    I find it unjust to prize something only based on 1st position and back a juicy reward behind it. A medal system would be more fairer as those who perform outstanding will still get it earlier than everybody else, while the people who have less 1st positions will know that their effort will still get the prize on the longer term. I think it's fairer this way

    Non ultra high end PvE works like that, and I would not qualify Frontlines PvP as ultra high end PvP(Ranked Feast is there for such reason).

    In any case, thanks everybody for the advice. I'll try to be more patient and await for my mount that will probably arrive some time around 6.0 :P
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    Noitems's Avatar
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    Noitems Ever
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    Goblin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AurynSaber View Post
    I completely agree that whoever wins gets a bigger reward than everyone else, I guess nobody doubts that.

    But in general, competitions with 1st, 2nd and 3rd place all have a medal system, not to diminish the work of the winners which is undoubtful, but also to praise the effort of those who go in and work hard. Sometimes, the match is decided in the last minute and it's neck to neck between all GC's.

    I find it unjust to prize something only based on 1st position and back a juicy reward behind it. A medal system would be more fairer as those who perform outstanding will still get it earlier than everybody else, while the people who have less 1st positions will know that their effort will still get the prize on the longer term. I think it's fairer this way

    Non ultra high end PvE works like that, and I would not qualify Frontlines PvP as ultra high end PvP(Ranked Feast is there for such reason).

    In any case, thanks everybody for the advice. I'll try to be more patient and await for my mount that will probably arrive some time around 6.0 :P
    The problem is, the moment you offer people the option to earn rewards by being lazy then it causes a trend.

    Back when Garo was in full swing there we people in Seal Rock autorunning into walls to avoid being kicked, and wanted to claim rewards. If they gave everyone a reward (which they do through Wolf Marks and EXP already) that led to a mount (through an achievement) that issue would be magnified and the people who are actually trying to win have to work twice as hard. The ones earned through wolf marks have that same very issue early on when they come out.

    Mind you if you have the patience these rewards can be earned very quickly. I don't play too often for Onsal but I'm actually 1/4 of the way there, and I know people who already have the mount due to dedication.

    Frontlines is very casual, but it has those rewards for a reason. To promote competitiveness and cooperation, which now that Freelancer has been forced has been shown in strides by many of those top PVPers helping out instead of stacking.

    If you're getting third and second constantly, you can look at a match and tell what exactly happened. That's what I did back when Seal Rock was in rotation and it helped me learn when to fight, and where to defend. You can always improve especially now with Onsal still being fresh to people, it'll help you achieve results that will in turn push you into trying more modes like Rival Wings and even Feast where those calls are made much more often.
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    Kurbb Stomp
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by AurynSaber View Post
    I completely agree that whoever wins gets a bigger reward than everyone else, I guess nobody doubts that.

    But in general, competitions with 1st, 2nd and 3rd place all have a medal system, not to diminish the work of the winners which is undoubtful, but also to praise the effort of those who go in and work hard. Sometimes, the match is decided in the last minute and it's neck to neck between all GC's.

    I find it unjust to prize something only based on 1st position and back a juicy reward behind it. A medal system would be more fairer as those who perform outstanding will still get it earlier than everybody else, while the people who have less 1st positions will know that their effort will still get the prize on the longer term. I think it's fairer this way

    Non ultra high end PvE works like that, and I would not qualify Frontlines PvP as ultra high end PvP(Ranked Feast is there for such reason).

    In any case, thanks everybody for the advice. I'll try to be more patient and await for my mount that will probably arrive some time around 6.0 :P
    this reads like "winning shouldnt matter, Everyone should get everything no matter what!!"
    Its like telling someone who won a bike race they dont get something special because its not fair to everyone else. Lmfao entitlement
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