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  1. #141
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    BloodRubyXII's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siete View Post
    The great obliteration of World of Warcraft classes came with raid-oriented class balance.
    Look at them, they used to be the strongest MMO out there now they're down the sinkhole, DEAD.

    So yeah, if Final Fantasy is going the WoW way with class design and balance around raids, it will share the same fate and die.
    Old comment, but honestly, if anything, over time you could get away with playing more specs in a semi-HC guild than ever the more time went on in WoW. There have been points where you could play EVERYTHING and a guild would take you because the difference would be so small and sometimes gear would actually make your suboptimal spec stronger. In FFXIV for example right now, you have two range spots, it's very difficult to justify giving one to a Red Mage. Playing Astrologian can limit you because even though it's strong enough to progress Savage and Ultimate, the vast majority of statics would rather take a Scholar and go WHM/Scholar; or they already have the Scholar and want a WHM; especially because of how certain immunities interact with healers. There's more examples like this but I don't wanna overdrill the point when responding to a 3month old post.
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  2. #142
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    Bhearil's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    See, I don't know what to say about that because, as a casual tank, I used DRK as my primary tank in Stormblood, and I didn't like the change in Shadowbringers, so I switched to WAR. So, to me, DRK and WAR still play differently and the difference is not just a matter of a different paint. I actually like how WAR plays now compared to Stormblood, but (in many ways, not all) I prefer how DRK played in Stormblood compared to 5.0 (not sure about now since I'm no longer playing it).
    Not saying that they are "exactly" the same but War and Drk core gameplay is quite similar on ShB: Build resources dealing "meh" damage with normal combos and damage burst on your Inner Release/Delirium window. The difference is that War has to pile up his buffs during those windows while the Drk due to having Darkside 24/7 (which is quite silly would have been better an increase on base damage if its gonna be up ALL the time, its as pointless as monk stances) just spams the skills are soon they are ready again unless playing on a coordinated team and lining up raid buffs
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  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhearil View Post
    Not saying that they are "exactly" the same but War and Drk core gameplay is quite similar on ShB: Build resources dealing "meh" damage with normal combos and damage burst on your Inner Release/Delirium window. The difference is that War has to pile up his buffs during those windows while the Drk due to having Darkside 24/7 (which is quite silly would have been better an increase on base damage if its gonna be up ALL the time, its as pointless as monk stances) just spams the skills are soon they are ready again unless playing on a coordinated team and lining up raid buffs
    I think the difference is significant enough to choose between the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    As the title indicates, jobs have become far too homogenized in ShB. Fun should come before raid balance.
    It's a no-win situation because the moment you diversify jobs people will start complaining about raid balance again.
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  5. #145
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Quote Originally Posted by FF16Necromancer View Post
    It's a no-win situation because the moment you diversify jobs people will start complaining about raid balance again.
    This was a good topic, Necromancer of Light.
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