Quote Originally Posted by SargentToughie View Post
Fair complaints, but compared to tanking last expansion, what's really changed? The only thing that's different is a unified tank stance, and slightly different (if more robust) rotations.

My argument is that those 10 seconds, and those 2 enmity combos you did at the start of a fight last expansion were never compelling gameplay, and the people in this thread complaining that tanking has been "made boring" are pointing at the wrong issues. I love the general direction they've taken with tanking in ShB, and I'd like to see them continue to expand upon it in the future rather than just throw it all away.

EDIT: As a follow up comment, every single job in this game is pretty straightforward once you've taken the time to learn it's basics, and you only need to take one step into Duty Finder to understand why that is. Even after all they've done to streamline the game you still see things like Ice Mages, Dragoons that don't use BotD, tanks that waffle with enmity, etc etc. Those that complain about the lack of complexity in this game should work on bringing the rest of the players up to speed first. Don't ask for seconds when about 50% of the people playing in the game don't even understand what's on the current plate.

Well for 1 tanks lost alot of our job skills that kinda added a bit of depth to staying alive, anticipation, convelesence, aggro management is now completely gone, and oh DRK basically became 2.0 WAR. Oh yeah, they also lost stuff to their classes generally speaking too. Lets not also forget although our classes didn't change... that's the entire point. We got almost NOOOOTHING from lvl 70-lv80 NOOO CHANGES, so we are expected to play the exact same jobs for 4 years? (namely PLD/WAR) Why did we get ignored? ARR to HW expanded the jobs in meaningful ways, SB changed all tanks again fairly radicully from HW... so why the -blam- did tanks get shafted this expansion? For the removal of tank stance? That's the excuse????

There is a difference between straight forward and one look at a job and I figured out 95% of the job with the only thing to learn is an opener. WOOOOOOOOOW.