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    Quote Originally Posted by Esmoire View Post
    Then there is also the fishing class who just wants to get their custom deliveries done in roughly the same time frame as a miner or goldsmith would.

    These are very different domains with very different design needs that they have been struggling to rectify. As it stands, whenever the game asks you to get a specific fish, you basically need 2-3 browser tabs to know the who, what, where, why, and how. You need a specific bait, in a specific place, a specific tug to look for, often specific weather, sometimes even with specific buffs you in turn only get by catching other specific fish. As someone who loves fishing in videogames I find FFXIV to have one of the most cumbersome implementations I have seen. Again, I think at least some of this is OK if we are talking about a completionist system (though even then some of the ideas are terrible), though they have had to really scale things back over time. I think universal baits is a good start in making FSH more accessible.
    For your weekly custom deliveries, all the fish needed use the Metal Spinner bait now. They have no weather or time requirements and bite frequently on the Metal Spinner. Also for all the fish except for the ShB ones (for some reason), the description of the fish tells you exactly where to go to fish for them. I've been using the fish turn ins for my alts for a few weeks now and I have found it just as simple to catch 6 fish as it is to get 6 collectibles with miner/botanist, give or take some RNG. Just use Patience II and go nuts.

    Also, for 90% of the fish needed for crafting, your retainers can bring them back once you have caught at least one, so no need to deal with the fishing minigame there if all you want to do is just craft something.
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    Mei Coincounter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post
    For your weekly custom deliveries, all the fish needed use the Metal Spinner bait now. They have no weather or time requirements and bite frequently on the Metal Spinner. Also for all the fish except for the ShB ones (for some reason), the description of the fish tells you exactly where to go to fish for them. I've been using the fish turn ins for my alts for a few weeks now and I have found it just as simple to catch 6 fish as it is to get 6 collectibles with miner/botanist, give or take some RNG. Just use Patience II and go nuts.

    Also, for 90% of the fish needed for crafting, your retainers can bring them back once you have caught at least one, so no need to deal with the fishing minigame there if all you want to do is just craft something.
    That is cute dear but I am coming from a position of someone who spends most of my time on FFXIV with the trades. I know you mean well though I don't really need someone to mansplain the basics of it, especially when my post already praised the progressive addition of tackle to help streamline the experience not unlike what you mentioned. My post is not asking for someone to teach me how to swim across the river, but a commentary on how the developers should build a bridge, in the same vein they made the crafters and other gatherers easy to get into. I want to see FSH get a lot of love and expand the depth in ways that are more meaningful and fun, and I hope the new voyages they are adding are going to be easier to pick up and play and relax for people just getting into it.
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