Does WoW have a faster pace than FFXIV?

[Omymy]

The APM are on average a lot higher, but the amount of skills in rotation and the mechanics are nothing in comparison to ffxiv and its speed is caused mainly by CD being 1 sec instead of 2.5s.
There are a lot of actions executed per minute like 40-80 (comparing to 30-48 in FFXIV) but most of it is made with few skills, where in ffxiv you have a lot better distribution between more numerous skills.

In short, WoW combat is a lot faster but it is also a lot simplier and based on spamming mindlessly few same buttons, where in FFXIV you have a ton more skills and mechanics to execute, making FFXIV combat more diverse in comparison.

FFXIV combat is a lot better, its slower but its busier and more thinking is involved in it than just spamming few skills all the time mindlessly, do not listen to the wow heads who are denying facts, i was sleeping playing that game even with console controller, its boring as hell.

Mythic raider here.

Please, go on, im laughing hard.

[Nedkel]

Mythic raider here.

Please, go on, im laughing hard.

Blood DK 94% in one highest rated team in raids and 98% DRK in savage titan
https://imgur.com/a/L8vIMTl

Are facts make you laugh? Wow combat is boring.

[Angus-Beef]

There are literally builds that move away from gameplay like that, that person chose to play that way.

[Nedkel]

There are literally builds that move away from gameplay like that, that person chose to play that way.

Its a tanking role vs tanking role.

[Angus-Beef]

You're missing my point, within FF there are not Multiple builds, you have your kit as you see it not changing. In WoW there are choices in the abilities you use, not everyone HAS to play the same, and you will not always be using one ability or small amounts of abilities through an entire run. While some classes in the tank role can be built to revolve around low CPM and only using a small amount of your abilities, you are not locked into that type of gameplay.

[frostmagemari]

Blood DK 94% in one highest rated team in raids and 98% DRK in savage titan
https://imgur.com/a/L8vIMTl
Are facts make you laugh? Wow combat is boring.

I mean.. the fact that the ability usage for DRK is padded out by Hard Slash > Syphon Strike > Souleater is kind of making me laugh. To use Souleater properly you have to use the other two, so you're not using more of your kit, it's simply three steps to the basic attack (like all tanks).

And yes.. i can safely add in that you've never touched a WoW raid in your life, or mythic+; Those things get hectic and you can't plan out where to move and what to do down to the literal second, nor can you prepare for moves just because the boss just used a specific move. XIV allows you to, even if you don't use something like ACT, the boss fights are a choreographed dance rather than a fight.

[Angus-Beef]

I mean.. the fact that the ability usage for DRK is padded out by Hard Slash > Syphon Strike > Souleater is kind of making me laugh. To use Souleater properly you have to use the other two, so you're not using more of your kit, it's simply three steps to the basic attack (like all tanks).

And yes.. i can safely add in that you've never touched a WoW raid in your life, or mythic+; Those things get hectic and you can't plan out where to move and what to do down to the literal second, nor can you prepare for moves just because the boss just used a specific move. XIV allows you to, even if you don't use something like ACT, the boss fights are a choreographed dance rather than a fight.

Mekkatorque Mythic was something else, Imagine a fight like that in FFXIV.

[Reap00]

I mean.. the fact that the ability usage for DRK is padded out by Hard Slash > Syphon Strike > Souleater is kind of making me laugh. To use Souleater properly you have to use the other two, so you're not using more of your kit, it's simply three steps to the basic attack (like all tanks).

And yes.. i can safely add in that you've never touched a WoW raid in your life, or mythic+; Those things get hectic and you can't plan out where to move and what to do down to the literal second, nor can you prepare for moves just because the boss just used a specific move. XIV allows you to, even if you don't use something like ACT, the boss fights are a choreographed dance rather than a fight.

You say that like its a bad thing. WoW raiding was meh and the community was unbelievably toxic. In WoW you aren't a person. You are a number.

[frostmagemari]

You say that like its a bad thing. WoW raiding was meh and the community was unbelievably toxic. In WoW you aren't a person. You are a number.

Except you see that all the time in XIV too.
The XIV community is not some bastion of politeness, and people can easily be toxic if they even bother talking to you over silently vote kicking someone without saying a word if they don't like you for whatever reason.
Conversely, I've seen much better personalities in WoW in my time there.
So, the only thing i can say is.. anecdotal evidence is only that, anecdotal and doesn't give you any arguments in the conversation.

[Reap00]

Except you see that all the time in XIV too.
The XIV community is not some bastion of politeness, and people can easily be toxic if they even bother talking to you over silently vote kicking someone without saying a word if they don't like you for whatever reason.
Conversely, I've seen much better personalities in WoW in my time there.
So, the only thing i can say is.. anecdotal evidence is only that, anecdotal and doesn't give you any arguments in the conversation.

I have never seen toxicity that you experience in the WoW community in any other game. The toxicity in that game is not just in end game. It is EVERYWHERE.